Why did Putin do that?

[ThatRobGuy]

Who know why they do anything they do...


Speculations and "theories" can range from superficial to conspiratorial.


On the superficial side. RT media was blocked by a number of countries and had their broadcast licenses yanked from several countries as well. Like any media outlet, viewership = money. Perhaps it was just a publicity stunt to keep their name out in the forefront of public discourse?


A middle-ground theory. Perhaps certain employees of the "state controlled media outlet" aren't quite as "state controlled" after all, and maybe this was an attempt to create headaches for Putin with plausible deniability? This particular TV presenter, Olga Skabeyeva, has been the target of speculation before with regards to being critical of Putin (there was the scandal involving her Telegram posts calling him a schizo and mocking him)



On the more "nefarious side", if there is, indeed, any "buddy buddy" relationship between Trump and Putin as many speculate, pretending to have a "public spat" is something that could be leveraged as a defense against those allegations later on.

So, for instance, if in 7 months from now, Trump implements a policy that's perceived to be "anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia", a defense could be "It has nothing to do with me liking Russia, I hate that guy, he showed pics of my wife"

Or, it's just a way for Putin to project to his own people that he's somehow "above Trump" or "not afraid of Trump" should he have to end up making more concessions to Ukraine than originally hoped for.


But again, these are all just random theories I'm pulling out of thin air lol...nobody knows what goes on behind the curtain over there

 

[Bradskii]

Even if they were real, which I don't credit, what difference would their revelation trigger? A bit of rage and embarrassment, but nothing else.

The question that would then need to be asked is what Trump would be prepared to do to prevent their release.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The question that would then need to be asked is what Trump would be prepared to do to prevent their release.

Probably something that would make the Democrats very happy... His ego would lead him to do something like putting Marines on the ground in Ukraine

 

[Bradskii]

Probably something that would make the Democrats very happy... His ego would lead him to do something like putting Marines on the ground in Ukraine

I don't get your reasoning. If Putin held some embarrasing info on Trump then Trump may well accede to a Putin demand to prevent it's release. But the fact that fake videos are easy to make these days I don't know how Putin would think he could convince those who didn't want to be convinced.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I don't get your reasoning. If Putin held some embarrasing info on Trump then Trump may well accede to a Putin demand to prevent it's release. But the fact that fake videos are easy to make these days I don't know how Putin would think he could convince those who didn't want to be convinced.

A narcissists worst fear isn't being made to look bad or hated, a narcissists worst fear is for the people who they feel "look up to them" or "revere them" (which is what gives them gratification and the dopamine fix) to see someone else as being "above them" or "getting the best of them".

You look at other textbook narcissists...think of the Andrew Tates of the world. They don't care about being hated, they thrive on that because they see it as a form of affirmation, the thing that really irks them is for people to think there's someone who can "best them".

Trump kowtowing to Putin, with a notion being widely publicized that "it's because Putin's got dirt and got the best of him, so he has to bend a knee" would be the thing that sets him off.

In my opinion, Trump would send fighter jets to Moscow before he'd do something that he feared would make him perceived as "weaker than" or "beneath" Putin in the eyes of the die-hard MAGA crowd.

In his first term, there was the purported "leaked" information about the phone call in which Trump said to Putin:

'Vladimir, 'if you go after Ukraine, I am going to hit you so hard, you're not even going to believe it. I'm going to hit you right in the middle of f-ing Moscow,'", and when asked about it by US media outlets, the Kremlin responded: "We still prefer to state a very responsible position in terms of not making public the content of conversations that are conducted at the highest level" So I think there's a valid possibility that a phone call of that nature actually took place.

I know some people like to "laugh it off" as a ridiculous assertion, but I do feel like Putin had a specific reason to wait for Biden to takeover before ramping up his aggression on Ukraine. Psy-op tactics (that Russia is known for) only seem to work well on a person who has a normal psychological profile. Trump does not...

The fact that a former KGB operative opts to postpone operation plans leads me to believe that Putin did have a level of concern for the "loose cannon" deterrent factor, that many in the US like to laugh off, but I think has some merit.

 

[DaisyDay]

This isn't like that though. There's nothing remotely secret about Melania Trump's GQ Magazine photos from 25 years ago. It's about as much of an exposé as showing clips of The Apprentice.

I'm sure there's a pun in there somewhere...

So, for instance, if in 7 months from now, Trump implements a policy that's perceived to be "anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia", a defense could be "It has nothing to do with me liking Russia, I hate that guy, he showed pics of my wife"

Seven months from now? Cutting off Ukraine is something he has campaigned on, his "Ukraine Peace Plan" where Ukraine cedes territory to Russia in exchange for no more bombing (until the next invasion) .

 

[essentialsaltes]

Probably not related, but interesting.

Melania Trump unlikely to move to the White House full time as first lady​

 

[DaisyDay]

Probably not related, but interesting.

Melania Trump unlikely to move to the White House full time as first lady​

Oh well. She'll probably be willing to make occasional paid appearances as she did for the campaign.

 

[Hank77]

That's not true - it's also about celebrity and desire.

I believe that you are correct about the models themselves but none of it would happen if there weren't lots of money to be made.

 

[Helmut-WK]

I'm pretty sure the p-tapes are not real.

Do you have insider information to say that?
The rumor about these tapes from an British ex-agent. He refers to information from several sources, gathered by the MI6 agency.
If the tape does not exist, then

1. Either the Russian agency FSB created the rumor and »leaked« it to the MI6
2. or some person in the MI6 faked some sources or altered the content of real sources
3. or Mr. Steele invented it.

Every option is rather improbable - information details from Steele turned out to be correct so far, there is no reason why the FSB (controlled by Putin) should do that, and the MI6 surely checked whether Steele told nonsense or presented the MI6 reports correctly.

On the other hand, it is a known fact that the Soviet KGB (former MWD, even earlier Cheka, now Russian FSB) used prostitutes to lure Westerners into situations the Soviets (or Russia, by now) can be blackmail them with photos or videos of that incident.
And Trump did not deny the alleged content of that tape (he let prostitutes pee on a bed where Obama and his wife had slept in) but denied a somewhat different thing (he did not allow prostitutes to pee unto him).

For me, this looks that the p-tape is real.

 

[Helmut-WK]

Who know why they do anything they do...


Speculations and "theories" can range from superficial to conspiratorial.

Let me add a last speculation, it is somewhat similar to

Or, it's just a way for Putin to project to his own people that he's somehow "above Trump" or "not afraid of Trump" should he have to end up making more concessions to Ukraine than originally hoped for.

Maybe Putin wants to show to the Russian that he is morally superior (he would never marry such a licentious woman which shows herself almost naked in magazines).

This can be combined with some other speculations of you …

 

[mindlight]

If it can be a given that RT is 100% state controlled media in Russia, I wonder why Putin would want them to show Melania naked as they congratulated Trump.

Russian state TV airs nude photos of Melania Trump as presenters congratulate her husband on election victory

its all going to be speculation, so why do you think he did that, and how come so few wedtern sources are mentioning it? Only seen newsweek and a couple of brit papers.

Maybe it is a warning to Trump that while the pictures of his wife might be hot the ones Putin has of Trump naked are not so much. What would Trump do to avoid being similarly exposed?