Why did pope change sabbath?

[EastCoastRemnant]

Truth does matter over chatter.

Hopefully you'll understand this before it is too late....

 

[Cribstyl]

Hopefully you'll understand this before it is too late....

Too late for what? What can you prove as truth?
If it's not biblical, I dont want it.

Come back when you get a word from the Lord to share.

 

[Cribstyl]

@Stinsonmarri

#50

Since you wanted proof of change, I felt it's only fair that you first prove that God required all nations to keep the sabbath.

Your response was long. #62 #63 But the bottom line is: Did you provide a clear response about a creation instituted sabbath?


I considered the context of your first words..... which was these texts....... Gen 2:1-3; Ex 20:8-11; 24:12; Lev 23:1-3; Isa 58:13; 66:22, 23; Mark 2:27, 28; Luke 4:16; 23:56; Acts 13:42, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4

If Genesis 2:1-3 said that God had given Adam rest, that could give you reason to link Ex 20:8-11.
The fact is, Ex20:8-11 reenforce that God rested, not Adam rested, on the seventh day.

My post was to post from Gen 1 from what is written, of God commanding Adam and Eve. #64 I posted what God commanded to them in Red.

I think you're linking those text to imply 'a creation instituted sabbath.'

I then presented text from John, in which Jesus explained that Moses gave circumcision presendence to the Sabbath, because it was passed down from Abraham. That implies that Sabbath was not passed down from Abraham because it was of Moses.
I'm hoping to hear your comments on this.
Here are the text...


Jhn 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
Jhn 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

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My next response was to part of the second statement in your long post #68 . It seems to me you've moved on to proving eternality of the sabbath with ISA 66.
I posted from Rev21 to show that no dead body will be on the New Jerusalem. (defiles or abbomination)

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Much love and respect
CRIB

 

[mmksparbud]

Just sneaking this in--the sabbath was given before Mount Sinai--the Israelites were keeping it before those 10 commandments were written down by God. Read Exodus 16:16-30--I won't take the time to write it down. This is when manna was given to the people (amongst whom were a mixed crowd)-they were given manna 6 days a week--non on sabbath and the manna would rot if they gathered more than one days worth, but on the 6th day they had to gather twice as much and it did not rot--They were to keep the sabbath--but some disobeyed--and in verse 28 God says "How long refuse ye to keep my commamndments and my laws?" How could they have kept what they did not know anything about?? This was quite a bit before the Commandments were given on Mt Sinai--the commandments, and the sabbath, were known from the beginning.

 

[Cribstyl]

Just sneaking this in--the sabbath was given before Mount Sinai--the Israelites were keeping it before those 10 commandments were written down by God. Read Exodus 16:16-30--I won't take the time to write it down. This is when manna was given to the people (amongst whom were a mixed crowd)-they were given manna 6 days a week--non on sabbath and the manna would rot if they gathered more than one days worth, but on the 6th day they had to gather twice as much and it did not rot--They were to keep the sabbath--but some disobeyed--and in verse 28 God says "How long refuse ye to keep my commamndments and my laws?" How could they have kept what they did not know anything about?? This was quite a bit before the Commandments were given on Mt Sinai--the commandments, and the sabbath, were known from the beginning.

Any comments on what Jesus said in John about Moses putting circumcision as a priority to the sabbath?


According to the scriptures, Ex16 is when God first gave the children of Israel the sabbath.
In this 16th chapter, Moses makes it clear that God had given the sabbath for the first time.
Exd 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exd 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

If sabbath was given before, would Moses say those words above?


Some people are quick to say that; The Children Of Israel had forgotten the sabbath while they were in slavery.
Not one scripture is presented to support that teaching.
The fact that God required them to be circumcized (and passover) does reveal which commandments scriptures existed before slavery. Reading Ex chapter Exd 12:1

You want to imply creation, please post 1text to support it.


We've been full circles with words games that does not imply the ten commandments, (Abraham kept God's law and commandments... Noah's clean meats, Abel's right sacrifice, Joseph's knew adultery was sin....)

These talking points are based on isolated texts, set up to discard the context and imply that God gave His law at creation.

Even the New Testament say and prove that Gentiles were aliens, foreigners and strangers from God's laws, covenants and commandments.

There is also confusion about the mixed multitude who left Egypt with the Children of Israel. They're are being portrayed by commentary as part of the Children of Israel.
The mixed multitude are identified as other natians who were in slavery with Israel.
According to the 4.com, God commanded Israel to establish boarders and the strangers who sojourned within their gates would have to keep the commandments of God.