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I did something better, I explained your logical errors to you. Which would be your next requirement, anyway. Better focus on not repeating them than on this lazy game.You're not saying what logical fallacy I used.
If that is so, and I say you explained nothing, why did you make the false accusation?I did something better, I explained your logical errors to you. Which would be your next requirement, anyway. Better focus on not repeating them than on this lazy game.
My goodness, Bob, focus. Why did Jesus gave the instruction to the man to take his mat and walk through the city with it, when it was not allowed to do on Sabbath?
So is Christ in Mark 7:7-13 - have you read it?You are also focusing just on "was it against the Mosaic Law"
Already answered it - Jesus did NOT give any instruction at all against Law.instead of on the question "why did Jesus gave this instruction".
Your question was a bit flawed as Jesus's Matt 5 statement points out.My goodness, Bob, focus.
Because the man was out in the open and now that he was healed -- needed to go home and be at rest.Why did Jesus gave the instruction to the man to take his mat and walk
Why not?through the city with it,
Not allowed by?when it was not allowed to do on Sabbath?
You did not answer why Jesus gave the specific instruction to pick up the mat and carry it through the city. Do not focus on if it was against your interpretation of the Law or not, do not worry, you said it clearly that in your opinion, the Mosaic Law was not broken.Already answered it - Jesus did NOT give any instruction at all against Law.
By their authorities in their society. As you are not allowed to drive on the red light. For Jews, the carrying was breaking the Sabbath rest.Not allowed by?
So, why do 'you' think Jesus gave the specific instruction to pick up the mat and carry it through the city?You did not answer why Jesus gave the specific instruction to pick up the mat and carry it through the city. Do not focus on if it was against your interpretation of the Law or not, do not worry, you said it clearly that in your opinion, the Mosaic Law was not broken.
By their authorities in their society. As you are not allowed to drive on the red light. For Jews, the carrying was breaking the Sabbath rest.
I do not know. Provoking the Jews is a possibility, but does not seem to match the character of Jesus.So, why do 'you' think Jesus gave the specific instruction to pick up the mat and carry it through the city?
I have seen only one real answer, somewhere in the beginning of the thread. That the man was emotionally attached to the mat, being for so long on it. Or something like that.Weve already answered you ten times.
I do not know. Provoking the Jews is a possibility, but does not seem to match the character of Jesus.
I have seen only one real answer, somewhere in the beginning of the thread. That the man was emotionally attached to the mat, being for so long on it. Or something like that.
I saw no other valid answer in other posts, but I did not read them all, because participants focused on if it was a real Sabbath breaking or not. Which was not my question. But the title of the thread simply attracted mainly the ones who are for Sabbath or the Law keeping.
The Sabbath burden God never put upon man, but are man made. These burdens take away the blessing of the Sabbath rest.If picking up a mat and walking is breaking the Sabbath, how does one put clothes on, on the Sabbath?
According to the law; Exodus 16:23-30, and if we are being so very strict, then no one should be outside at all on the Sabbath.
Stay at home and eat leftovers is what Exodus 16:23-30 describes.
I think the command is about labor, do no labor on the seventh day.
If it is not laborious to carry the mat, the Sabbath is not broken.
Jesus tells the man, sin no more lest a worse thing come unto thee. John 5:14
That strongly leads towards the conclusion that Jesus did not consider carrying the bed to be a sin against the Sabbath law.
Jesus was showing the Jews that their strictness was too much, the heart of the matter is sincere love for people.
I see that many of you simply want to discuss if it was really breaking the sabbath or not.
However, my question is why did Jesus said to the man to do what was not allowed in their society (and what was not necessary for anything related to the healing).
Because Jesus is greater than the Law. Jesus' Commands are Perfect. The Law never was. Because Jesus is God and Commands the Sabbath. Not the Jews commanding Jesus with the Sabbath and God's laws that they perverted and disobeyed.Carrying a mat is work. Its basically moving his furniture and that was not allowed, as Jews reminded to the man.
Interesting that you take your beliefs from those who murdered Jesus. I find that extremely odd, as it is a devil inspired belief because it is the devil who is a murderer.
You have a Text for that?It is a mattress. Maybe even a couch. Not some 5lb light woven mat.
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Really? They didn't arrest Jesus, take Him to Pilate and bully him into crucifying Jesus? Justice says those who initiate an event are just as guilty as those who do the actual act.It is a devil-inspired statement that the Jews murdered Jesus. They did not! Jews were not allowed capital punishment. It was the Gentiles/Rome that killed the Christ, or more, the World.
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