Why did God?

[BadDeciple14]

why did God allow evil to exist?

why put the tree of knowledge in the garden when it can mess up his plans? when he made the earth he saw that it was good so why put something which would release evil AND banish satan to earth?! did he want them to get tempted or something? the bible made adam and eve sound like ten year olds so it bothers me why he sent satan to earth.

will there be free will in heaven ?

if so, why didn't God just design earth and heaven that way so that we wouldn't have to through all this trouble?

also why did God get angry at A&E if they did not posses the knowledge of good and bad? surely they did not think not following Gods instruction was wrong right? did they even know what death was?

since he will abolish sinful nature in heaven why not just do that in the first place?

and why do we have to inherit sin when we weren't the one who sinned? i dont think its fair for us to suffer the consequences of those two idiots.

last of all, why the hell did adam and eve not kill themselves especially after hearing all the curses that they were cursed with?

 

[Strathos]

Good can't exist without evil

 

[Strathos]

So, you don't buy into the "evil as privation of good" theories, then.
What is evil?

That's a very complex subject.

 

[Inkachu]

why did God allow evil to exist?

Evil is what you get when God is removed. It's not a matter of 'allowing' it; it simply is.

why put the tree of knowledge in the garden when it can mess up his plans?

I don't think we'll have a full answer for this until we get to Heaven and have much more understanding than we do now. For now, remember that when God planted that tree, there was no temptation going on, there was no danger of Adam and Eve disobeying and eating from it. We have no idea how much time passed - it may have been eons of peaceful, perfect life - before Satan showed up and tempted Eve to eat from the tree.

when he made the earth he saw that it was good so why put something which would release evil AND banish satan to earth?!

ANY sin or disobedience from Adam OR Eve would have had the same consequence. If the tree wasn't there, Satan would have tried other ways to tempt one or both of them into sin.

did he want them to get tempted or something? the bible made adam and eve sound like ten year olds so it bothers me why he sent satan to earth.

What's so horrible about being a 10 year old? And of course God didn't want them to fall. I don't think we as puny human beings can ever even conceive of the grief and heartbreak that God experienced (and still does) because of the things we choose to do.

will there be free will in heaven ?

I believe that temptation will be removed from us as we know it. There will be no evil in Heaven. Will it still be possible for someone to rebel and fall away as Lucifer once did? I don't know.

if so, why didn't God just design earth and heaven that way so that we wouldn't have to through all this trouble?

You'll have to ask Him that when you meet Him I believe that God wanted to create a race that would be special and like no other, made in His image, to be His children, to love Him and commune with Him as never before or since in all of eternity. I believe we're His greatest expression of love. I believe He's more than proven that we were "worth" coming into existence, since He's gone above and beyond to redeem our sorry selves more than once! And He's put a plan in place to ultimately save all of us from this world and from sin and death.

also why did God get angry at A&E if they did not posses the knowledge of good and bad? surely they did not think not following Gods instruction was wrong right? did they even know what death was?

They did not know what death was. However, they had been clearly instructed and chose to disobey. Eve believed that God was a liar (per Satan's lies to her).

since he will abolish sinful nature in heaven why not just do that in the first place?

See my answer two questions up.

and why do we have to inherit sin when we weren't the one who sinned? i dont think its fair for us to suffer the consequences of those two idiots.

I don't know exactly HOW sin became part of our physical and spiritual makeup, but it did. Again, some things we are not going to fully understand with our limited minds and senses. We will just have to wait for those answers.

last of all, why the hell did adam and eve not kill themselves especially after hearing all the curses that they were cursed with?

Do YOU want to kill yourself because you live in a sinful world? Of course not. Life is still worth living. God laid out the punishments and consequences of sin, but He didn't abandon Adam and Eve or stop loving them.

 

[Inkachu]

If someone is genuinely seeking answers about a faith or belief system, why do non-believers feel the need to come into the discussion and start throwing around mocking, juvenile comments? Honestly. If you don't believe, find something else to do with your time. I don't go into threads of other faiths or beliefs just so I can make fun of them.

 

[Inkachu]

The thing is, I really have no problem with people believing what they like. But I do see that there is doubt about the stories in the bible. I'm not the only one who questions these stories, so there must be something wrong with the stories themselves for people to doubt them in the first place.

I think atheists just like to drive home the point as to why they don't believe. Often the best evidence against the bible is, the bible itself. Plus, we don't always get to talk about these things IRL so we come here to voice our opinions on the matter and well.... as long as atheists are allowed onto these forums, you're gonna have to hear from them.

I see that there's doubt, too. I certainly don't claim to have all the answers. There's nothing inherently "wrong" with the stories; you either believe them or you don't.

I have absolutely no problem with atheists and agnostics and anyone else of any other faith being on this forum. All I expect to receive is simple respect, and that's what I give as well. I will never sit here and mock an atheist for his/her beliefs. You won't see it happen. And I've met a few atheists here on CF who were extremely nice and respectable and had great conversations with them.

FTR mocking Christianity or God is against the site TOS. Just something to bear in mind.

"It is considered blasphemy to insult or mock Christianity or any part of the Trinity-Father (God), Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. Honest debate about the nature of God and Christian Theology is allowed, but derogatory remarks are not."

 

[FreeinChrist]

MOD HAT

This thread is being moved to Exploring Christianity.

That means the only non-Christian that may post in this thread is the OP.

 

[bling]

why did God allow evil to exist?

Evil has purpose to help the nonbeliever fulfill his earthly objective.

why put the tree of knowledge in the garden when it can mess up his plans?

God knew man would eventually sin, since man would not on his own humbly accept God’s charity.

when he made the earth he saw that it was good so why put something which would release evil AND banish satan to earth?!

Satan has a purpose in helping man.

“Very good” for God is the best it could be made to help willing humans fulfill their objective, but that is not perfect like Christ is perfect.

did he want them to get tempted or something? the bible made adam and eve sound like ten year olds so it bothers me why he sent satan to earth.

Adam and Eve were as good as all humans could be.

God did not want them to be “tempted” by satan but knew they would be since they did not accept His unconditional Love as charity (yet).

will there be free will in heaven ?

Yes

if so, why didn't God just design earth and heaven that way so that we wouldn't have to through all this trouble?

There are just some things that cannot be done; like make a being exactly like Christ, since Christ has always existed. We thus have an objective to fulfill which completes something God cannot do.

also why did God get angry at A&E if they did not posses the knowledge of good and bad? surely they did not think not following Gods instruction was wrong right? did they even know what death was?

Adam and Eve did not know good and evil, but did know right and wrong.

God parented (programmed) Adam and Eve to adulthood.

since he will abolish sinful nature in heaven why not just do that in the first place?

Who told you that? Our “nature” is no different that Adam and Eve’s nature before they sinned, knowledge did increase.

and why do we have to inherit sin when we weren't the one who sinned? i dont think its fair for us to suffer the consequences of those two idiots.

Scripture does not say: “we inherit sin”.

last of all, why the hell did adam and eve not kill themselves especially after hearing all the curses that they were cursed with?

“Curses” like disciplining can be good for you if accepted correctly.

 

[Joshua260]

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[oi_antz]

Are you with us OP? Should I bother to address your concerns? I am thinking about this topic too today.

 

[theophilus777]

why did God allow evil to exist?

Because He is just. Evil actually does exist, and for Him to create w/o having that be a part would not be just.

why put the tree of knowledge in the garden when it can mess up his plans?

All of evil, was confined to one tree. One. That was His plan. That you conflate this with somehow "messing up his plans" is to demonstrate your lack of understanding.

Further, we can minimize all evil to one tree in our own lives today. (This is the way of the Cross)

when he made the earth he saw that it was good so why put something which would release evil AND banish satan to earth?! did he want them to get tempted or something? the bible made adam and eve sound like ten year olds so it bothers me why he sent satan to earth.

There is nothing in the text to suggest they are 10 year olds. Where do you get that idea?

will there be free will in heaven ?

We don't actually know, but from everything that is revealed to us so far it seems reasonable to conclude that our responsibilities will only increase int he next life.

if so, why didn't God just design earth and heaven that way so that we wouldn't have to through all this trouble?

This is a very good question for you to be asking at your age. It is also a very important matter to SETTLE. The fact is, this is God's plan. This life is not heaven, and it involves struggle, pain, suffering, and death. You have no choice but to get used to it. Might as well embrace the Cross.

also why did God get angry at A&E if they did not posses the knowledge of good and bad? surely they did not think not following Gods instruction was wrong right?

This is all nothing but misunderstanding on your part. Whether this was taught wrongly to you, or you came up with this yourself I don't know.

In a first-hand experiential way, A & E "knew" good; they were surrounded by it. They only "knew" death based on what God told them; i.e., Faith. Just like you and I

The only way they could "know" evil was to actually lose, rather than gain anything. By being kicked out of Eden, suddenly they "knew" evil! That was a loss, not a gain. That's what happens every time we violate God's plans and purposes. Every. Time.

Notice that what I'm saying holds true every bit as much regardless of the story is allegory or historical fact.

since he will abolish sinful nature in heaven why not just do that in the first place?

Not His plan. Doesn't achieve His purposes.

and why do we have to inherit sin when we weren't the one who sinned? i dont think its fair for us to suffer the consequences of those two idiots.

First off, watch your mouth as you have fared no better. Next, you are reading it wrong. This may well have been taught to you. We don't inherent condemnation from God, neither do we need to. You and I have fallen short of the glory of God all on our own, w/o needing anyone else's help.

 

[VDMA]

Good can't exist without evil

You're stepping on to some pretty shaky theological ground there, brother.

 

[Angelquill]

why did God allow evil to exist?

why put the tree of knowledge in the garden when it can mess up his plans? when he made the earth he saw that it was good so why put something which would release evil AND banish satan to earth?! did he want them to get tempted or something? the bible made adam and eve sound like ten year olds so it bothers me why he sent satan to earth.

will there be free will in heaven ?

if so, why didn't God just design earth and heaven that way so that we wouldn't have to through all this trouble?

also why did God get angry at A&E if they did not posses the knowledge of good and bad? surely they did not think not following Gods instruction was wrong right? did they even know what death was?

since he will abolish sinful nature in heaven why not just do that in the first place?

and why do we have to inherit sin when we weren't the one who sinned? i dont think its fair for us to suffer the consequences of those two idiots.

last of all, why the hell did adam and eve not kill themselves especially after hearing all the curses that they were cursed with?

Those are all very good questions, and I think we have all wondered about these things.
Have you ever considered that, perhaps, this plane of existence is the final stage of our creation? We aren't perfect yet...but when this final stage of our creation is finished, we will be...