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Why did God create you?

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God has our best in his heart. He created me to be in relationship with him.
It might sound arrogant, but it's not...to say that God created us for his enjoyment and vice versa.
He created everything for his enjoyment.

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

But why create people, when we could disobey him? Why give such scattered brained creatures dominion over his creation? To share his image perhaps? I believe it glorifies God to share his love with us, unworthy as we are of that love. I believe he smiles when we enjoy his presence and his creation. I believe he enjoys us as a father enjoys a toddler he helped bring into the world.
 
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No, it is not arrogant, it is true. God is good, and God is love, and the greatest good is love. That relationship - divine love - is the great good that God seeks to share with us. And He is teaching us how to share that, with and in Him, in a process toward holy perfection.

In the Church, the understanding of the process is called "spiritual theology", or "spirituality", most clearly and systematically expressed in what is often called "the Carmelite Tradition" - St. John of the Cross, St. Teresa of Jesus (of Avila), and others... Including St. Thomas Aquinas - who is not a Carmelite but a Dominican.

Yes we begin as "toddlers" - but He calls us to maturity in Christ.

Eph 4:12 ... to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,
Eph 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ;
Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the cunning of men, by their craftiness in deceitful wiles.
Eph 4:15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ,
Eph 4:16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by every joint with which it is supplied, when each part is working properly, makes bodily growth and upbuilds itself in love.​
 
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He created me to be in relationship with him.

But why create people, when we could disobey him? Why give such scattered brained creatures dominion over his creation?

Please consider:
the kind of relationship you mention can only be fully achieved by the free will acceptance of everyone in the relationship... Neither love nor marriage can be forced. A free will must be free to choose any available option in each choice.

ImCo:
GOD created everyone in HIS image, that is as a suitable bride for HIMself, with a free will and the equal ability and opportunity to put their faith in HIM as their GOD and in the Son as the only saviour from sin OR to repudiate HIM by faith as a liar and a false god driven by psychosis.

We are only scatterbrained because we are within the grip of sinfulness, addicted to evil while struggling in the spirit. We cannot have been created that way because Light cannot create Dark and if we are sinful without any choice to be evil by our free will then our sin is upon whoever made us sinful, ie, we are guilty of nothing.
 
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I just saw your post.

I have been absent for some time some many reasons.

What you ask is very Philosophical. The question will in the end only lead to another question.
I would say that “Historically,” we, people were made in God’s image for our our morality, our sense of right and wrong and so that we could fellowship with God.

Our "rationality, our ability to reason" makes us different from all the other living creatures on the earth.

Our "spirituality", is our ability to relate to God.

Our "aesthetic" sense — you don’t find too many donkeys creating Mona Lisas.

Our "judicial" sense, the whole legal system, a sense of right and wrong and justice and injustice. And I think, frankly, all of those are true and aspects of what it means to be in God’s image.

Now as as for a purpose, I would say that as a Christian we should have at our root the need to share the gospel with others so that they too can be saved.
 
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God made me so that others may smile at my loving eyes! ( And short legs) Woof!
Aw-w-w-w. . .

And the cutest tush in the whole world!

Golly, I miss mine. . .those loving eyes.
 
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I just saw your post.

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Now as as for a purpose, I would say that as a Christian we should have at our root the need to share the gospel with others so that they too can be saved.

Thank you for your thoughts, and contribution.

Can you say more? - What does it mean, to you, to "be saved"?
 
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Thank you for your thoughts, and contribution.

Can you say more? - What does it mean, to you, to "be saved"?

It is in the family of words steming from....."salvation and Saviour".

"Saved" is an acronym that means that the person in question has been rescued/removed or better said...DELIVERED FROM from the coming judgment of God.

2 Corinthians 5:10...........
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

ALL sin has to be paid for.

Romans 6:23........
"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Now we either accept the payment for our sins by Jesus the Christ or we pay them ourselves at the judgment.
 
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"Saved" is an acronym that means that the person in question has been rescued/removed or better said...DELIVERED FROM from the coming judgment of God.

I was wondering whether you meant saved from something - which now I see you did -
or you meant saved for something.
The question began with this, from you:
"Now as as for a purpose, I would say that as a Christian we should have at our root the need to share the gospel with others so that they too can be saved."​

If the root purpose of being saved, is being saved from judgment and condemnation, that leaves an eternity of free time after judgment with no purpose and nothing to do? Did Jesus come and die for us for that? Is the purpose of God in creating us only to save us from His righteous condemnation of us?
What is missing here?
 
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ALL people when they are saved, are saved FROM something TO something.

There will be ZERO time between the judgement of the Christian and the eternal glory of heaven.

The Christian has already had his sin judged and has been justified by faith.

Titus 3:7 -
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Romans 5:1 -
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Corth. 5:6..........
Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord."

2 Corth 5:8..........
. . . we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord. "

That is, when a believer dies, they are immediately with Christ. Therefore, it will be that a believer will stand before Christ immediately after death and receives their rewards.

Then The RAPTURE will in fact be the Judgment Seat of Christ for those who are still alive.

2 Corth 5:9-11.......
"Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences."

1 Thessalonians 4:17 -
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Thess. 4:51..........
“Behold I tell you a mystery: we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the at the last trump; for the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.”

So then what you are asking is.......... Why not lay aside wrath without a sacrifice?

God did not make up a rule or impose a new punishment on us; rather, He was revealing to us an unalterable, eternal reality—if you depart from the Sustainer of life, then you logically cut yourself off from the possibility of a continued existence.
That being the unalterable reality, those who reject Life only have one other option, and that is Death.

Saying that God made the “rules” by which sin is atoned for is somewhat like saying that Isaac Newton wrote the law of gravity. Newton described the effects and nature of gravity, but the law of gravity preceded and transcended his description. In similar fashion, the Bible describes the nature of sin and righteousness, but the universal laws concerning sin and righteousness, death and life, and justice and mercy precede and transcend the writing. God’s laws flow eternally from the nature of God Himself.

I hope that helps you.
 
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Major1, I do not question the need for atonement, for the work of redemption and thus the Cross of the Lord! I do not question the need of salvation from sin. I do question the much greater emphasis on "getting saved" meaning "saved from " judgment and death, and the much lesser emphasis on the eternal Life that awaits the saved after Judgment Day (in the many non-Catholic churches I visited in my "searching" days) - a Life that the Catholic Church teaches is to begin here and now, to grow to perfection after that Day.

Does your church tie together finding salvation from death, to the more important work of Christ and the Spirit of giving LIFE to human persons created for such a Life in communion with God our Savior? Is not that hope and promise of supernatural and eternal Life an even greater Good News than being freed from the dark prison of death? We were created not merely so God could save us from, but to then enable us to enter into, with Him and with one another in Him.

Just between us, where is the most time spent in preaching the Good News in your church? On the release from death, or the entry and the eternity of Life? And what is taught of the Life? Of what does it consist? What is a saved soul to do, in the endless moments of eternity? And how do we prepare for that here and now, and of what does such an eternity consist?
 
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Of course my friend, that should be understood without having to be stated as that is one of the teachings of the New Testament.

A man that does not do good works is not a saved man.

Good works will not get us into heaven, as the Bible specifically tells us that we can only be saved by grace through our faith in Jesus Christ. But being willing to do good works for the Lord in this life will bring us certain types of rewards.

When it comes to the subject of “salvation and good works,” there are two serious errors that plague the church. One is that of Roman Catholicism, which teaches that in order to gain enough merit for salvation, we must add our good works to what Christ did on the cross. Under this view, you can never know for sure whether or not you are saved, because there is no way to check your “merit balance” to see if you’ve stored up enough. So you have to keep adding good works in the hope of gaining eternal life. Under Roman Catholic teaching, a person could never say what Paul says in Ephesians 2:8, “you have been saved.”

Just between YOU AND ME> Really???? OK. But actually I do not care if the whole world read what I say and in fact I hope they do.

Another error in Christianity is that A person may pray the sinner’s prayer and profess to believe in Jesus as his Savior. Later he may profess to be an atheist and live in gross sin, but he will be in heaven because he made a decision to receive Christ. This view fails to realize that salvation requires God’s raising a sinner from death to life, which inevitably results in a changed life. It divorces repentance from saving faith and teaches that saving faith is simply believing the facts of the gospel. Submitting to Christ as Lord of your life may follow salvation, but it is not a necessary aspect of saving faith, according to this error.

Now to try and respond to your questions......
We are not saved by good works, but we are saved for good works. Those different prepositions make all the difference in the world! Good works are the evidence of salvation, not the cause of it. If there are no works or change of life to follow salvation, then it should be questioned whether the person is truly saved.

Jesus taught this very plainly. In warning about false prophets in Matt. 7:15-...
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.”
 
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How do you understand this teaching:
Rom 13:11 Besides this you know what hour it is, how it is full time now for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer (??) to us now than when we first believed;​
(I thought you believed that salvation began with first belief. How is it here in "nearer" - in the future?)

Rom 13:12 the night is far gone, the day is at hand. Let us then cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light;​
(I thought you believed all works of darkness - "every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.” - were gone, and only good works could [or must?] follow salvation.)
 
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Are we doing a Bible study or are you just testing my knowledge?

Allow me to give you my translations of Romans 13:11.........
"Heaven is closer to reality TODAY for me than it was yesterday!"

Death can come at any moment and so can the Rapture. Either way I am ready to stand in front of the Lord Jesus Christ.

How is it nearer ???? Every second brings us closer to seeing Christ!

Verse #12.......How is what Paul said any different that what Jesus said about fruit and good works????

I did not say anything about works of darkness.

The works of darkness = Dark, wicked deeds, such as are specified in the next verse. They are called “works of darkness,” because darkness in the Scriptures is an emblem of crime, sin as well as of ignorance, and because such deeds are commonly committed in the night they are to be put off or stopped.

How?
Ephesians 6:11
"Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil."

I await your next question but please undstand that very soon I will have to give you a test on these things.
 
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I was hoping the Scripture could surprise you with mysteries that can open the heart to Good News. We are too clever at finding only what we want to find - the Lord can hardly get our attention. I'm sorry - I was not trying to test you.

Mt 11:25 At that time Jesus declared, "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes;
Mt 11:26 yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will.
Mt 11:27 All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
Mt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Mt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."​
 
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That is not an answer.

To say that you are......
"hoping the Scripture could surprise you with mysteries that can open the heart to Good News."..........means absolutely nothing to me.

WHAT exactly are you looking for???
WHAT are you trying to tell me.

Why not just use simple, everyday down to earth, country boy words so that I can grasp what it is that you are saying.
 
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Think some more about what wrote. The words each have meaning. Put them together in the sentences provided, and think. I'm sticking with this, because that same focus and discipline is required for hearing Scripture. Listen. Listen. Listen again.
 
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I guess you are trying to say something......but I have no clue what it is.
 
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I guess you are trying to say something......but I have no clue what it is.
I'm sorry I cannot say any differently what needs to be heard. I can only encourage you to listen to Him. Listen for Him. Pray and hunger to hear.
 
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As someone mentioned above, this is why God created all things,

Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure, they are and were created."
 
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I'm sorry I cannot say any differently what needs to be heard. I can only encourage you to listen to Him. Listen for Him. Pray and hunger to hear.

Again .....3rd time. WHAT are you wanting me to hear?

WHAT is your point?

Is there a Bible Scripture that you would like to have explained to you?

Why are you being so, shall I say.....deceptive?
 
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