Why did God create you?

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I find that so many "doctrinal" differences (Catholic/protestant) have a beginning at a deeper level than usually is ever addressed. Maybe this question can illuminate something essential - a foundational belief upon which the Christian revelation can either stand true, or collapse under the weight of contradictions concerning God Himself.

Why do you exist? Why did God make you? What is your purpose in His Heart?

I'd be grateful to hear responses.
 

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I find that so many "doctrinal" differences (Catholic/protestant) have a beginning at a deeper level than usually is ever addressed. Maybe this question can illuminate something essential - a foundational belief upon which the Christian revelation can either stand true, or collapse under the weight of contradictions concerning God Himself.

Why do you exist? Why did God make you? What is your purpose in His Heart?

I'd be grateful to hear responses.

"Why did God create Humans"? or "Why did God create one human - BobRyan"?

"Why did God allow humans to exist after the fall of Adam"? or "why is BobRyan still alive"?
 
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Technically, we are not created, but born.

Our general purpose is to be useful to others and to spread the kingdom of God.

Our specific purpose is related to where we live and what we are put into.

Jeremiah 1:5, “the word of the Lord” came to the prophet Jeremiah, who was a young man at the time. God said to him: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet
 
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Jeremiah 1:5, “the word of the Lord” came to the prophet Jeremiah, who was a young man at the time. God said to him: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet

does that apply to all humans or the prophet?

what about births through rape?
 
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"Why did God create Humans"? or "Why did God create one human - BobRyan"?

"Why did God allow humans to exist after the fall of Adam"? or "why is BobRyan still alive"?

Do those questions have different answers? Answer the question, for each "or" pair, that has the same answer for either of the "or"s.
 
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Technically, we are not created, but born.

Our general purpose is to be useful to others and to spread the kingdom of God.

Our specific purpose is related to where we live and what we are put into.
1) A person who is born is not created?

2) Can you say more?
"To be useful" toward what end/purpose?
What does "the Kingdom of God" mean to you? How does that explain the "why" of your being?
 
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I find that so many "doctrinal" differences (Catholic/protestant) have a beginning at a deeper level than usually is ever addressed. Maybe this question can illuminate something essential - a foundational belief upon which the Christian revelation can either stand true, or collapse under the weight of contradictions concerning God Himself.

Why do you exist? Why did God make you? What is your purpose in His Heart?

I'd be grateful to hear responses.

God made me for the same reason He made everyone else so that we could have fellowship with Him in a loving relationship.
 
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Can you say more about what "fellowship" or "loving relationship" with God means?

No, not really. I mean it’s a father son/daughter loving relationship. Other than that I don’t what else to say. We don’t have a lot of details from the scriptures on how the relationship will play out in Heaven or about what our life will be like with Him in Heaven. So it’s hard to say exactly.
 
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I like the old Westminster answer: To glorify God and enjoy God forever. Human beings are a wonderful creation of God, and we bring glory to God by our existence. God, also, is wonderful beyond description, and God has given us enough awareness that we can enjoy God -- imperfectly in this life, more fully in the life to come.
 
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No, not really. I mean it’s a father son/daughter loving relationship. Other than that I don’t what else to say. We don’t have a lot of details from the scriptures on how the relationship will play out in Heaven or about what our life will be like with Him in Heaven. So it’s hard to say exactly.

I believe you are really on the right road to much more. God designed our nature so that we possess a certain compatibility with Him - "Him" being the only God who IS - that is, God the Holy Trinity. You see the "father son/daughter loving relationship", which is a great and very profound "clue", designed into our nature, pointing us to the divine nature, God the Holy Trinity, three Divine Persons in the One God, an eternal relationship of Three in One, so perfect being the "relationship" and the Love binding them, that they necessarily exist inseparably One, a dynamic interchange and exchange of Love and mutual indwelling in the One Unity.

Jesus shows us the right human expression of the eternal and divine Love: He walked that Love, and in His Self-emptying, and out-pouring, on the Cross for the sake of others, points us to the key. We are made to enter that Mystery of holy communion in Him. Why? Because Love, of necessity, seeks the Good of the Beloved.
 
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I truly have no idea, and frankly, no Christian answers really satisfy me.

To truly have no idea why you exist puts you well ahead of many - the many who are looking for it in all the wrong places, thinking/hoping that because so many are doing this or that or the other, it MUST be the way to happiness. But it is not. None off those merry-go-rounds get anywhere. God made us for a deep joy that is eternal. This passing world has many signs and symbols - "parables", if we can hear what they are saying - signs pointing to that which lasts, and that brings light to the mystery, finally answering that most human of questions, WHY? Why am I here? What am I to do? Where can I find the truth. The Truth!

The Christian answer is the only one that is - that is true, right, necessary, essential, real. Search out the Truth in Christ, and you will find it.
 
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1) A person who is born is not created?

2) Can you say more?
"To be useful" toward what end/purpose?
What does "the Kingdom of God" mean to you? How does that explain the "why" of your being?

1) Yes, a person who is born is not created. We had parents.

2) Useful to the community, to the place you live in, to your family, to people/animals in need, to your employer, to your country etc. Whatever situation you are placed in.

The Kingdom of God in this broad meaning is all that is good (justice, freedom, democracy, peace, truth, good values and morals, health...) and wherever God conquers some evil, lie, injustice, tyranny, disease etc. through you.
 
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1) Yes, a person who is born is not created. We had parents.

Parents are a part of the process by which you came into being. I am not concerned here with the process or time used to create you, but rather with the fact of "you," only after a timeless expanse when there was "not you."

Was there ever a time when there were no parents? When there was no humanity, no human nature, no human life? No "stuff" at all? Before there was, there was not. Then, there was. "Creation" began .... you.

And thinking it through, since before I first existed, I did not exist, I was created. And since my existence had a beginning, and needed to be created, my continuing existence is no more necessary than my existence itself. That is, my existence must be held in existence by something outside of my own being. That is, my essence does not contain my existence. I am not necessary - my creation, and my being, are not necessary (I could more easily not exist, than exist. The universe would not miss me at all, if I never existed. Yet - yet - I do exist. My creator, because of whom I do exist, must also hold my existence in being, lest I collapse back into the not-being that preceded me.)
 
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As a reply to satan's appeal of his sentence to the lake of fire, after his sin and fall.

Did you click on the wrong thread? A thread that was about "satan's appeal of his sentence to the lake of fire, after his sin and fall"?
 
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2) Useful to the community, to the place you live in, to your family, to people/animals in need, to your employer, to your country etc. Whatever situation you are placed in.

The Kingdom of God in this broad meaning is all that is good (justice, freedom, democracy, peace, truth, good values and morals, health...) and wherever God conquers some evil, lie, injustice, tyranny, disease etc. through you.

Can I paraphrase your reply and say, "God created me to work through me to bring about a community where good is established and evil is conquered"? So in the end, we are instruments of God for the formation of a just society?

Please correct me if I misunderstood you.
 
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Can I paraphrase your reply and say, "God created me to work through me to bring about a community where good is established and evil is conquered"? So in the end, we are instruments of God for the formation of a just society?

Please correct me if I misunderstood you.

We can debate the word "created" or "just society" (helping somebody or forgiving somebody is not exactly "just"), but you got the main point.
 
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