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Ahh, thanks for clarifying that. I am sorry for my misinterpretation
 
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Shouldn't matter because not everything is clean.

Are you saying Jesus failed and that we must follow the ritual/holiess code? I most certainly hope not; that would be Judaizerism.

Why does everyone assume that if you follow the Torah, you don't like Jesus? Nothing Jesus did got rid of the Torah. Jesus didn't take away anything, didn't do anything ('cept the whole sacrifice thing). If you follow the Torah, you are not saying Jesus is insufficient in any way! Jesus is all we need, He is how we get to heaven!

Ahh, thanks for clarifying that. I am sorry for my misinterpretation

...a thank you? I rarely get one of these... I don't know what to do! I KNOW! PRAISE BE TO YHWH!!!!!!!
 
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Are you saying Jesus failed and that we must follow the ritual/holiess code? I most certainly hope not; that would be Judaizerism.

I don't get it, because Jesus died for our sins, we are now allowed to sin in any way that we want and it doesn't matter what we do anymore? That would sound like a failure to me, to make man stop living by a code of morals.
 
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Ok, so let me ask you this... why is it not a sin to eat pork? Let me quote our Lord

Mat 15:8 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
Mat 15:9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'"</I>*

Mat 15:10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, "Hear and understand:
Mat 15:11 "Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man."

So what is the Lord saying here? I believe He is saying that its not important what one eats nor is it important that we keep outward ordinances... what is important is our inward heart attitude toward God... do I fear Him? (not as much as I should)... do I please Him (not as much as I could)... Let me ask this question and see if we get any more posts cuz this is good stuff

Why did God tell Moses to forbid Israel eating of certain types of animals?
 
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first of all, YHWH told us not to eat that crap 'cause it is unhealthy. YHWH wants us to be healthy, and He knows what is better for us then we do. Secondly, it is a teaching of separation. To keep the holy things out of the profane. Kind of like the law that says you can't wear a garment that is made of silk and cotton (I don't know the reference or the exact materials) but it was something like this and the only reason for it is to teach separation. Silk represents the holy, and cotton the profane.

Also, where Yeshua says that it's not what goes in your mouth that defiles you, he was not making a new commandment. If you read my earlier post, it says that very clearly.

Look at verse 15, it says "declare unto us the parable". Meaning, don't take me literally.

Shalom, OObi
 
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rockytriton said:
I'm just wondering why it is ok for christians to eat pork and shell fish and things that the bible says that we can't eat.


Romans 14, 17:
For the kingdom of God is not food and drink, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.


I eat pork because it's good......, it eats everything.....
and its hams have a lot of Vit. B1......


Jesus said we have to eat his flesh that is spiritual.
Evidently to eat pork meat in O.T. means to do acts against God teachments.


 
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rockytriton said:
I'm just wondering why it is ok for christians to eat pork and shell fish and things that the bible says that we can't eat.

Yes I think we can.When Jesus came he came with a new law
Hebrews 8:
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This covenant will not be like the one
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
and led them out of the land of Egypt.
They did not remain faithful to my covenant,
so I turned my back on them, says the Lord.
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But this is the new covenant I will make
with the people of Israel on that day, says the Lord:
I will put my laws in their minds
so they will understand them,
and I will write them on their hearts
so they will obey them.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
 
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For the kingdom of God is not food and drink, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

In the very biginning of this chapter you will see that this is addressing the issue of doubtful disputations.

THE WORD OF YHWH IS NOT A DOUBTFUL DISPUTATION!!!

Also, yes YHWH made a new covenant with Israel but the covenant made is a kettubah, and that is a wedding covenant. This has nothing to do with law.

In fact, in the later lines of that particular passage, you will see that YHWH says He will write the laws on their hearts. Now, where are the laws found?

Shalom, OObi
 
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If it is true that all of the laws were done away with after the death of Yahshua, then boy how easy it would be to remain a follower of Yahweh; However, Yahshua did NOT come to destroy the law....but FULFILL it. We were told to walk in His path. The things that He did, we too should do.

He kept the Sabbath, we should also
He did NOT eat unclean food, neither should we
He kept the feasts, so should we

These things were an example for us to follow...NOT do away with. yahweh ins in control of everything. he gives us laws to abide by.Whether we understand them or not, they are there. We are commanded to keep these laws.

Everyone knows that pork is very unhealthy,that catfish and shrimp are scavengers....perhaps our Heavenly Father wanted to keep His children Healthy.
 
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Absolutely not!
 
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