Why Bother? A scientific Critique of Evolution

[Styx87]

I only glanced at some of the article since I just got off work and I'm exhausted. I'll read more later...

The part that got me is that we have never observed Evolution A?

All one has to do is google "Observed instances of Speciation" and you can prove that argument wrong in under a minute.

Not to mention, these guys are pretty far diverged LMBO! I don't know if there's enough genetic drift here to prevent these pups from breeding but either way I doubt it's happening in any case . And we already know that both descended from wolves so yeah... MACRO Evolution is definitely possible and observable.

 

[USincognito]

How long will it be until we get a thread older than some of the people posting here?

The rules say you have to be 13 in order to have an account and the oldest C&E threads are from 2002, so some time in 2015?

(technically that's the lower limit while you asked for when, but I'm sure it will happen if not then, shortly afterwards)

 

[Metal Minister]

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[JamesKurtovich]

Because there's an alternative to assuming something came about in a natural way.

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[SkyWriting]

Because there's an alternative to assuming something came about in a natural way.trollface.jpg

"Naturally" everything decays and goes away.
It happens 24/7 in every science lab.
You have to "work" to accomplish any results.
Windows require UV coatings so colors don't fade away.

 

[CabVet]

"Naturally" everything decays and goes away.

Really? Did you know that the Big Island of Hawaii is much larger today than what it was a few years ago? Do you know how it gets larger? Naturally.

 

[SkyWriting]

Really? Did you know that the Big Island of Hawaii is much larger today than what it was a few years ago? Do you know how it gets larger? Naturally.

The material may move around some, but every atom of it releases a bit of energy at what we believe to be constant rates.
And that energy or radiation moves out into space and dissipate never to return. God willing.

New Calculations Suggest Universe May be Closer to Heat Death

 

[CabVet]

The material may move around some, but every atom of it releases a bit of energy at what we believe to be constant rates.
And that energy or radiation moves out into space and dissipate never to return. God willing.

New Calculations Suggest Universe May be Closer to Heat Death

So, is the Big Island of Hawaii decaying or growing? Your statement was pretty clear:

"Naturally" everything decays and goes away.

 

[SkyWriting]

So, is the Big Island of Hawaii decaying or growing? Your statement was pretty clear:

My statement made no mention of The Big Island.
Let's just say that all matter is "evaporating away" to nothing.
In the meantime, lava may spew to the surface and raise above
the water lever causing the land mass to grow, or the sea levels
may rise until Hawaii is just steam bubbles bursting on the
ocean surface.

It's a race to see who wins.

 

[CabVet]

Let's just say that all matter is "evaporating away" to nothing.

Really? I am not sure if you know less about biology or physics... Can you give me one example of something, anything, at any point in time that "evaporated away to nothing"?

 

[CabVet]

My statement made no mention of The Big Island.

Yes, it did, everything includes the Big Island.

"Naturally" everything decays and goes away.

"Naturally" the Big Island is growing, not decaying, so your statement is incorrect.

 

[SkyWriting]

Yes, it did, everything includes the Big Island.



"Naturally" the Big Island is growing, not decaying, so your statement is incorrect.

Yes, at it's base, it is a scientific fact, not a religious one.
ENTROPY, THE FIRST AND SECOND LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS AND THE LAW OF MAXIMUM ENTROPY PRODUCTION

 

[CabVet]

Yes, at it's base, it is a scientific fact, not a religious one.
ENTROPY, THE FIRST AND SECOND LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS AND THE LAW OF MAXIMUM ENTROPY PRODUCTION

Have you read the material in your own link? These laws address transformations, both from organized to chaotic and from chaotic to organized. I want you to show me something "evaporating to nothing".

 

[SkyWriting]

Have you read the material in your own link? These laws address transformations, both from organized to chaotic and from chaotic to organized. I want you to show me something "evaporating to nothing".

That was a generalization formed from scientific theory:
Heat death of the universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps a little to pessimistic. Maybe matter will survive the ultimate heat death of the cosmos.
But matter without usable heat is close to nothing.

 

[CabVet]

That was a generalization formed from scientific theory:
Heat death of the universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps a little to pessimistic. Maybe matter will survive the ultimate heat death of the cosmos.
But matter without usable heat is close to nothing.

Nowhere in that hypothesis (it is a hypothesis, not a theory) it is stated that matter will "evaporate to nothing".

 

[SkyWriting]

Nowhere in that hypothesis (it is a hypothesis, not a theory) it is stated that matter will "evaporate to nothing".

Hense, no quote marks or citations.

 

[CabVet]

Hense, no quote marks.

So let's go back to your original statement, do you admit you were wrong when you said this?

Let's just say that all matter is "evaporating away" to nothing.

 

[SkyWriting]

So let's go back to your original statement, do you admit you were wrong when you said this?

No. I love that statement. Glad you put it back into context and showed your withered hand.

 

[CabVet]

No. I love that statement. Glad you put it back into context and showed your withered hand.

Great that you love it, only one problem, it is wrong. Matter does not evaporate into nothing.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Hense, no quote marks or citations.

So it comes from you, not from science.