Fnord said:
And why your God? This is one thing that always confused me. Not only is there no proof that God exists, if God did exist, there is also 0 proof that your God and/or religion is the correct one. Why?
Yes I'm an atheist, but I was an agnostic before that and was raised in a Catholic family. I really did want to believe in God, because, admit it, it's a pretty nice idea. But, it was difficult to believe the words of people living a thousand years ago, when science is constantly disproving their thoughts. And there are the contradictions. My faith crumbled, it's as simple as that. But I still have an open mind. Care to save me?
True, Science can't prove "which religion accurately discribes God" But science does prove that the universe, and life in the universe was created by something not dependant on what that person/group of people created.
I can write pages on the subject but the quickest example is life:
There's tons of life on the earth. If Life naturally evolves the way it did on earth, life should be at some stage of development on every other planet with an atmosphere. Maybe even planets without one.
The standard public highschool version of biogenisis explains that the earth started with a "primordial ooze" and random molicules bumped together to form a living cell, which evolved into life suitable for the environment... So if the earth had this "primordial ooze" All planets should have this primordial ooze. Why don't we see it anywhere?
Also, we can detect billions of galexies. In each of these galixies there are hundreds of billions of stars. Around most of these stars there are at least a few planets say just 2 planets per star... some may have 10-20, some may not have any. If even 1% of these host life that's still a good number of planets with life. We have no evidence to show how long the average planet takes to generate life so we have to assume we're about in the middle. If 50% of the planets which can support life are not as far as we are on the evolutionary chain than 50% are further than us. Some of the ones not as far as us may still be in the primordial ooze, some may just be in their form of the 1970's. Likewise some of the ones more advanced than us may only be a few generations ahead of us, some must have formed advanced civilizations and collapsed already.
Now... with those odds, half of 1% of the planets, just in the universe we know of.... at least 10*10^18 or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets with life evolutionally beyond what we currently have. Don't you think ONE of them would have contacted us by now? Or shouldn't we have at least stumbled on evidence of one of them?
doesn't seem all that natural to me. Plus there's the whole problem with the big bang theory... if black holes are impossible to escape, what infinite force caused matter to escape from the infinite force of a universal singularity that existed before the big bang? And if there's only been one big bang than for an eternity that singularity sat there, idle... then suddenly exploded, what caused that? And if this wasn't the first big bang, if there have always been big bangs/big crunches what force overpowered the infinite force which propelled the matter of the universe away from the infinite force of the origonal universal singularity? And if the universe has been constantly banging and crunching, matter must have always been in motion, and due to the law of entropy dictating that the universe becomes more chaotic with every change... over an infinite period of time, the universe should be infinitely chaotic.
The universe can't both create itself and hold itself together.
Sorry, I'm done for now.
