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Why Be Confessional?

abacabb3

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Sure. WHat if a bunch of Reformed CHurches wanted to excise the part of the LBC about the moral law and sabbitarianism, and replace it with the teaching of Scripture and tradition that Christ completely fulfilled the Law? I was just reading this in Augustine's On Man's Perfection in Righteousness. If 7 London churches can make a Confession, why can't 77 American Reformed CHurches do the same?
 
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Just spoke to an Elder at Affirmation Presbyterian Church (PCA) because he attended our Christmas Eve service. Brought up the issue of the Sabbath and Confessionalism. He reiterated that the majority of ordained PCA ministers when asked if they differ with the WCF take issue with the Sabbath.
 
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Just spoke to an Elder at Affirmation Presbyterian Church (PCA) because he attended our Christmas Eve service. Brought up the issue of the Sabbath and Confessionalism. He reiterated that the majority of ordained PCA ministers when asked if they differ with the WCF take issue with the Sabbath.

I've seen several other claims that the PCA allows exceptions on the Sabbath. The OPC, however, requires acceptance of the WCF on this issue.
 
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My copy of the WCF is a nicely bound book where the confessions and catechisms fill less than 20% of each page. The rest of each page is filled with the scriptural support for each phrase. If I quote the confession, be sure that I read those verses listed below and I probably read the surrounding verses as well to check context. They aren't an authority, but they are a concise way to focus what you believe.

Yup, and Aaaaaaa-men!

Every church has a liturgy, and every church has a confession. Some just don't admit it.
 
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"...I want to say first of all is that it is a time that men speak disparagingly of creeds. You hear it on every side, 'I believe in religion but I don't care anything about theology. I love flowers but I don't care anything for botany. Let's have a religion without any dogma.' Men take great credit to themselves in these utterances that they are free from the enslavement to dogmas. You must not take these people too seriously. They either don't know what they are talking about, or else know what they say is utterly unworthy of human respect." - B. H. Carroll
 
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Many of us were Spurgeonites:

https://chantrynotes.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/spurgeon-vs-spurgeon/

Spurgeon, "...worried that the confessional language creates a cold, uncaring God. In fact, he created his own metaphor of an uncaring doctor who is only interested in outcomes, not in the sufferings of his patient.
This is a Truth of God of which I feel jealous and I do not wish to see it toned down. There is a sentiment abroad that sounds plausible and is accepted by many Christian people, that God puts us to much sorrow, wisely and for our good, while His own heart is unaffected or callous to our suffering because He foresees, according to His own purpose, the good that will come out of it. Some kind of analogy might, in that case, be suggested between our gracious God and a skillful surgeon, who cuts and cuts deeply, when he would remove a cancer from the flesh. Or a physician who administers potent drafts of medicine, which, perhaps, cause excruciating pain. The surgeon would be too intent on the success of his operation, or the physician would watch with too much anxiety, the effect of his prescription on the patient to bestow much thought or sympathy on those present sufferings which he confidently anticipates will effect a permanent cure.
I don’t know if that sort of preaching was common in Spurgeon’s day. I’ve never heard such preaching and wouldn’t endorse it. The passages which speak of God’s divine affection toward His people are real, and they cannot be reduced to this sort of cold, heartless practice. Does the confessional statement require this of us? If we deny that God has passion, do we deny that He pities? That He loves? That has never been the case throughout the history of the church.

He insinuated that the confessional position denies the preacher permission to use the language of Scripture, as though we cannot speak of God’s compassion and grief where the Bible does:
This is a Truth of God of which I feel jealous and I do not wish to see it toned down…
Hear it, dear Friends, first, for your encouragement, and hear it, next, for your imitation. Hear it that you may be encouraged! God is not unfeelingly afflicting you, but He is pitying you! Hear it that you may be impelled to go into the world with a like pitying eye. If you ever have to say a rough word in fidelity, or are required to utter a stern rebuke, do it after the manner of your heavenly Father, pitying even if you have to blame, and gently delivering the expostulation which it grieves you to have to deliver at all!
Well, yes. In fact, Yea and Amen! I wonder if this isn’t what Spurgeon was getting at when he seemed to imply that the metaphor must bear a literal meaning? Was he merely saying, “Don’t make so much of its metaphorical character in your preaching that you lose the force of it”? I am uncertain, but here he seems concerned that we not become passionless in our preaching.
Again, though, we must ask whether the confession forbids us to speak in the manner Scripture speaks, or to use its metaphors. Certainly not! We ought to preach scripturally, and we ought to employ its words – including its metaphors. We ought not require that every hearer be fully conversant in the complexities of metaphor, either. The point of the confessional doctrine is only to make certain that we not alter the immutable character of God by making Him into a changeable and changing creature. That introduces some caution into the manner in which we express divine pity; it certainly does not eliminate such expression altogether."
 
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