Why are you a Baptist?

[JM]

Like the title of the book, 'the Bible makes us Baptists' that's it for me. What about you, I've seen some say they are non denom but attend a Baptist Church...what do you say?

 

[BT]

Like the title of the book, 'the Bible makes us Baptists' that's it for me. What about you, I've seen some say they are non denom but attend a Baptist Church...what do you say?

I'm a Baptist because I'm a fundamentalist and I believe in the Baptist distinctives. I never called myself a Baptist until I learned the distinctives, after which I exclaimed, Hey! I am a Baptist!.

I don't believe in calvinism.
I don't believe in arminianism.
I believe in Biblicism.

 

[Cright]

I'm a Baptist because I'm a fundamentalist and I believe in the Baptist distinctives. I never called myself a Baptist until I learned the distinctives, after which I exclaimed, Hey! I am a Baptist!.

I don't believe in calvinism.
I don't believe in arminianism.
I believe in Biblicism.

Well... this about says it for me. BT hit the nail on the head.
I go to a church called Woodside Bible, formerly called Troy Baptist... they changed the name because they wanted to stress the importance of the church being taught on Biblical principals. The faith statement (along w/ a great pastoral team) is why I'm attending and becoming a member there.

Carina

 

[OracleX]

I am a Baptist because that is the church I attend. I attend that church because I agree with what is taught and the stance taken on the Word and God. But above all I am a Christian.

 

[Blake]

Like the title of the book, 'the Bible makes us Baptists' that's it for me. What about you, I've seen some say they are non denom but attend a Baptist Church...what do you say?

Can you give me the author of this book?

 

[TwinCrier]

I am a Baptist because all the churches I've ever attended because they are KJO fundamental have been Independant Baptist. If they call themselves Independant Baptist and I believe the bible as they do, that makes me one of them.

 

[JM]

Can you give me the author of this book?

Will have it tomorrow, I just need to take a look at my Churches library.

 

[JM]

I don't believe in calvinism.

Why do people call doctrines of Grace, calvinism? If we are going to name a Biblical doctrine after someone who defines it well shouldn't we call it Augustinism? Or dispensationalism would be called Scofieldism...etc.

 

[BT]

I don't believe in calvinism either, I believe in the Grace of God.

I don't believe in arminianism, but most who believe in Grace label all others arminian maybe semi peligian.

I too believe in Biblicism...

Great! I believe in the Grace of God too. Just not as defined by ol' Johnnie Calvin or the modern day TULIPians. Though normally it's only people in theological circles so to speak who have bought into Calvinism who label all others arminians, or semi-peligians or some other such nonsense. Anyway glad to see you're a Bilblicist!

 

[Anti-Fear]

Can you guys tell me what calvinism teaches?

 

[BronxBriar]

Can you guys tell me what calvinism teaches?

If you have the time and patience..it's all here:

http://www.monergism.com/

 

[JM]

Can you guys tell me what calvinism teaches?

The following was taken from a group of posts I made on another forum, have your Bible ready, hope this helps.

The term, "Calvinism," is not the name by which we Calvinists prefer to have our faith called; nor do we prefer to call ourselves "Calvinists." Calvin was the name of a man, a great servant of God, John Calvin. He was one of the Reformers by whom the Holy Spirit reformed the Church in the 16th century. To call ourselves "Calvinists" and our faith "Calvinism" leaves the impression that we follow a man and that these beliefs are the invention of a man. In fact, these terms originally were terms of derision used by our enemies, as were also the names, "Christian," and "Protestant." Therefore, from the very beginiing, Calvinists called themselves "Reformed," or "Presbyterian." Thus, they deliberately distinguished themselves from the other great branch of the Protestant Reformation, the Lutheran Church, which did call itself by the name of a man (contrary to the wishes of Luther himself).

http://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_31.html

Great sermon.
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=&sermonID=1130391353http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.aspcurrSection=&sermonID=1130391353

God Controls "Nature"

"Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar: The Lord of Hosts is His name" (Jeremiah 31:35)

"By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened. Also by watering he wearieth the thick cloud: he scattereth his bright cloud: And it is turned about by His counsels: that they may do whatsoever He commandeth them upon the face of the whole world in the earth. He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for His land, or for mercy" (Job 37:10-13)

"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth". (Genesis 7:4)

God determines the length of your life

"All the days ordained (set apart) for me were written in your book before one of them came to be"
(Psalm 139"16)

"Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? Are not his days also like the days of an hireling?" (Job 7:1)

"Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble...Seeing his days are determenied, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his boundes that he cannot pass" (Job 14:1, 5)

God controls your steps

"A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps" (Proverbs 16:9)

Gods control in regards to our hearts

Above when Solomon said "A mans heart deviseth his way, but the Lord directeth his steps", it must be noted the this verse cannot have been meant as a blanket statement over every single affair in our lives, (at least in regards to the heart that is). For upon my studies concerning the extent of Gods control in the affairs of men, I realized that the Bible explicitly teaches that God also has control of the heart. Sometimes it is not the man's heart who divises his way. Sometimes it is God who divises the ways of the mans heart and then He also controls mans steps on top of that.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall the , and shall make her desolate and , and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil His will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." (Revelation 17:16-17)

"And the Lord said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: But I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go" (Exodus 4:21)

"And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: For they shall be my people, for they shall return unto me with their whole heart" (Jeremiah 24:6-7)

"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people" (Jeremiah 31:33)

"And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto those things which were spoken of Paul" (Acts 16:14)

God controls all things

"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purposes of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will"
(Ephesians 1:11)

Notice the theme....

John 1:12-13 born (again) not by man's will, but God's
John 3:3-8 flesh begets flesh -Spirit begets Spirit wind/Spirit blows
where it will
Titus 3:5 according to his mercy - washing of regeneration
1 Peter 1:3 Begotten according to God's mercy
1 Peter 1:23 Born of incorruptible seed by Word of God
1 John 5:4 Born of God
Deuteronomy 30:6 Lord himself circumcises our hearts
Ezekiel 36:26-27 The Lord gives anew heart and enables by his Spirit
Galatians 6:15 Nothing we can do avails - only becoming a new creature
Ephesians 2:10 We are created unto good works
2 Corinthians 5:17-18 We are new creations - old passed, new come
John 5:21 The Son quickens whom he will
Ephesians 2:1,5 Quickened who were dead
Colossians 2:13 dead in sins; quickened by Christ
Matthew 11:25-27 hid from wise - revealed to whom Christ will
Luke 10:21 same as above
Matthew 13:10-11 Given to some to understand - others are hardened.
Luke 8:10 same as above
Matthew 16:15-17 flesh and blood did not reveal -special blessedness
John 6:37 all the Father gives shall come
John 6:44 No man can come except the Father draw him; and Christ will raise up
John 6:45 everyone who has learned (been disciple) from the Father comes
John 6:64 Jesus knew from the beginning
John 6:65 no man can come
1 Corinthians 2:14 natural man cannot know spiritual things
Ephesians 1:17-18 God gives spirit of wisdom - eyes of the understanding enlightened.
Acts 5:31 Jesus gives repentance to Israel
Acts 11:18 God has also granted repentance to the Gentiles
Acts 13:48 As many as were ordained to eternal life believed
Acts 16:14 The Lord opened Lydia's heart
Acts 18:27 believed through grace
Ephesians 2:8-9 faith a gift of god
Philippians 1:29 it is given to us to believe
2 Timothy 2:25-26 God may give repentance to the acknowledging of the truth!
Previously captive to devil at his will Romans 1:6-7 the called of
Jesus Christ = beloved of God

Romans 8:30 predestinated then called then justified then glorified
Romans 9:23-24 prepared for glory, then called.
1 Corinthians 1:1 called to be an apostle by God's will
1 Corinthians 1:9 called by God the faithful
1 Corinthians 1:23-31 not may wise, etc.
Galatians 1:15-16 Paul called when it please God
Ephesians 4:4 Those in the body called in hope
2 Timothy 1:9 called according to his purpose and grace
Hebrews 9:15 called; receive the inheritance
Jude 1 sanctified - persevered - called
1 Peter 1:15 calling - holy
1 Peter 2:9 called from darkness to light
1 Peter 5:10 called to eternal glory
2 Peter 1:3 given us all things ... hat called
Revelations 17:14 those with Christ are called, chosen, faithful
Isaiah 55:11 God's word accomplishes what he pleases
John 3:27 nothing received except from heaven
John 17:2 gave eternal life to as many as thou hast given
Romans 9:16 not of him that willeth or runneth
1 Corinthians 3:6-7 it is God who gives increase
1 Corinthians 4:7 who makes you to differ? cannot glory!
Philippians 2:12-13 God works in you both to will and to do
James 1:18 of his own will begat he us
1 John 5:20 Son of God gave us understanding
John 17:6 Christ manifested himself to those the Father gave him out
of the world.

2 Timothy 3:15; Hebrews 4:12-13; Hebrews 10:16; Hebrews 12:2;
Hebrews 13:21

If you have any questions about Sovereign Grace, just pm me or stop by the Reformers forum on this site.

SP

 

[BT]

http://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_31.html

Yikes. That's almost as spooky as a Roman Catholic apologetics web page (almost, but not quite).

 

[BT]

I got a "no audio sermons found" on the other link.... is it right SP?

 

[JM]

Yikes. That's almost as spooky as a Roman Catholic apologetics web page (almost, but not quite).

BT, I can't believe you'd try and detract from my post by tossing out the words 'Roman Catholic!'

I fixed the link.

 

[BT]

BT, I can't believe you'd try and detract from my post by tossing out the words 'Roman Catholic!'

I fixed the link.

Doh!

Sorry brother! Didn't mean too. I think the guy that wrote that is a "hyper-calvinist" because of this quote:

Calvinism is the Gospel. Its outstanding doctrines are simply the truths that make up the Gospel. Departure from Calvinism, therefore, is apostasy from the Gospel of God's grace in Christ.

I guess I'm an apostate then.

There are many convincing posts and arguments for calvinism (though they all have one over-riding flaw ). This page, IMO, isn't a good one. My good friend theseed, who I expect along shortly as he is drawn to these posts like a moth to a flame , would (I think) say that this guy is a hyper-calvinist. I could be wrong though.

Sorry to detract from your post though my friend.. I didn't mean to. I am simply a 0 point calvinist and I fear I've brought this thread off-track, and for that, I apologize.

 

[JM]

BT, I was just joking...I think you and I see eye to eye on more things then we disagree upon.

 

[BT]

BT, I was just joking...I think you and I see eye to eye on more things then we disagree upon.

I know you were . Yes we do see eye to eye on far more things than we disagree on. We shall lean on our agreements and the rest of the forums will know that we are Christians by our love.

Peace to you brother.

 

[Frankie]

Why are you a Baptist?

I am starting to wonder this myself. While I very much agree with most of the Baptist doctrines, I am starting to notice things, collectively with Baptist people (especially on this forum) that I had never noticed before. I am starting to really pray about this one to see if the Baptist church is really where God wants me right now in my life.

God Bless,
Frankie

 

[BT]

Why are you a Baptist?

I am starting to wonder this myself. While I very much agree with most of the Baptist doctrines, I am starting to notice things, collectively with Baptist people (especially on this forum) that I had never noticed before. I am starting to really pray about this one to see if the Baptist church is really where God wants me right now in my life.

God Bless,
Frankie

What is it that you are noticing that is bothering you. May I add that you should not wonder about the Baptist church based on what you read on an Internet forum. If you have problems speak to your pastor, that's what he is there for.