WHy are we wasting our time

[Big Mouth Nana]

In His Grace; God does not agree with you on perffection James 1-17.

This is not talking about people here in your scripture. Mine is.
Philippians3:12 ~ Not as though I had already attained, either were already PERFECT: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
As long as we are in these sinful bodies, we will not know perfection. It is the Spirit that is to be perfected in us, and as far as I can tell, we haven't achieved that yet either .

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

*MOD HAT ON*

OK. . .IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS THREAD WAS STARTED AS A PLACE TO SHARE A STRUGGLE AND THEN BE PRAYED FOR. LET'S GET IT BACK ON THAT TRACK.

*MOD HAT OFF *

 

[mle]

Oh Lord, Heavenly Father, I pray that you would cause peace to rule in this thread. I pray we would not be defensive or judgemental. Lord, continue to do your work here and forgive us for getting off track. Lord, I pray that this thread would continue to bind up the broken hearted and not be destructive. Lord have your way here. Your way Lord God , is LOVE. In Jesus name. Amen

II Corinthians 13:1
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

*MOD HAT ON*

OK. . .IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS THREAD WAS STARTED AS A PLACE TO SHARE A STRUGGLE AND THEN BE PRAYED FOR. LET'S GET IT BACK ON THAT TRACK.

*MOD HAT OFF *

Sorry Quaffer. Sometimes the Spirit of decernment takes over, and I do not stifle the Spirit. I'll back out of this thread, as PRAISE GOD, I AM FREE with no problems. My prayers are with everyone who are suffering in their bodies or minds. Be free in the name of Jesus!!!!

 

[Jesusmyfriend]

Good observation demon slayer. Satan does not need to attack us if we spend all our time attacking each other. I'm pretty sure that is why Apostle Paul once said; "I know nothing among you except Jesus crucified for me."

 

[enoch son]

I walk by faith and not by sight. For all things from my Lord are perfect. For He said it is finished. I will take Him at His word. I will not look at a dead thing my flesh which was crucify with Him. It is cover with His blood and is gone (as far as east is from the west, remember no more). Priase his grace for the fullness of the Godhead, for the divine nature which reigns in His sons and daughters. My heavenly Lord you are the author and perfecter of our faith a better faith then the ones before us. I choose the new and better faith. "THEREFORE, SINCE WE ARE RECEIVNG A KINGDOM THAT CANNOT BE SHAKEN, LET US BE THANKFUL, AND SO WORSHIP GOD ACCEPTABLY WITH REVERENCE AND AWE, FOR OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE".

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

And thank You God for that consuming fire. . .for with it we are changed into Your image. We thank You God that we are not subject to the way's of our enemy and through You he has been defeated. We are no longer tied to the bondages that destroy but are now tied to You where there is freedom to be all You've called us to be.

Thank You God, for your mercy and grace. Thank You God for Your faithfulness to faithfully see through to the end the good thing that You have started in each one of us.

 

[enoch son]

Oh priase all you saints for it is by Him, thur Him, for Him, to Him, all things have been done. Look and you will see His glory in the new creation in the mirror.

 

[Lottedah]

By his graCE i HAVE GOT TO APOLOGIZE.
I am an obsessor and your words tripped me out last night because I obsess and obsess and question and worry.
Then today when I was showering after my workout I distinctly heard God say-listen to your grandmas gwen shamblin tapes on weigh down workship.. not because you overeat but because I want you to learn to relax.
And her words hit me.. I wasnt preoccupied with MYSELF.. I was preoccupied with what I ate, how many calories how to burn it off and so forth
So you were right.. God showed me this summer I stopped losing weight after my healing because I STARTED FOCUSING ON CALORIES AND OBSESSION again..
So Im already healed. I just have to take my focus off ME and it will go
So thankyou.. your words cut me deep because lets face it.. you caught the kitten by her claws.
Im sorry and Im contrite and I have alot of respect for you because you are like me and you cut through the baloney.

 

[Lottedah]

By his graCE i HAVE GOT TO APOLOGIZE.
I am an obsessor and your words tripped me out last night because I obsess and obsess and question and worry.
Then today when I was showering after my workout I distinctly heard God say-listen to your grandmas gwen shamblin tapes on weigh down workship.. not because you overeat but because I want you to learn to relax.
And her words hit me.. I wasnt preoccupied with MYSELF.. I was preoccupied with what I ate, how many calories how to burn it off and so forth
So you were right.. God showed me this summer I stopped losing weight after my healing because I STARTED FOCUSING ON CALORIES AND OBSESSION again..He told me yes I was doing great in his ministry but he is displeased with my worry and obsessing.. he wants me to relax and have fun and enjoy like when my sister was here.. without guilt.. you were right.
So Im already healed. I just have to take my focus off ME and it will go
So thankyou.. your words cut me deep because lets face it.. you caught the kitten by her claws.
Im sorry and Im contrite and I have alot of respect for you because you are like me and you cut through the baloney.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

By his graCE i HAVE GOT TO APOLOGIZE.
I am an obsessor and your words tripped me out last night because I obsess and obsess and question and worry.
Then today when I was showering after my workout I distinctly heard God say-listen to your grandmas gwen shamblin tapes on weigh down workship.. not because you overeat but because I want you to learn to relax.
And her words hit me.. I wasnt preoccupied with MYSELF.. I was preoccupied with what I ate, how many calories how to burn it off and so forth
So you were right.. God showed me this summer I stopped losing weight after my healing because I STARTED FOCUSING ON CALORIES AND OBSESSION again..He told me yes I was doing great in his ministry but he is displeased with my worry and obsessing.. he wants me to relax and have fun and enjoy like when my sister was here.. without guilt.. you were right.
So Im already healed. I just have to take my focus off ME and it will go
So thankyou.. your words cut me deep because lets face it.. you caught the kitten by her claws.
Im sorry and Im contrite and I have alot of respect for you because you are like me and you cut through the baloney.

Praise God lottedah!!! You were on my mind today, and in my prayers. I had to say what I said, the way that I said it. It was coming from my Spirit to you. You WILL succeed in the name of Jesus, and I have every confidence that God will give you the desires of your heart. No why? He is the one that puts them there, because He loves us so much. We do not always know what we want, or is best for us, but He does praise His name!!! He showed me this about 5 years ago while I was reading that verse. I expect to hear great things about your progress in the months to come. His Most Wonderful Blessings To You, BHG

 

[Heinrich]

Hi my fellow saints... (whoa that sounds funny but hey that how Paul opens his letters )

My heart goes out to those of you with problems. I really wish I could help or something. I hope the Lord bless me in Deliverance Ministry in the future... but first He have to sort out some other stuff with me.

I just like to talk some encouragement to you!
My whole life was turned upside down last year, in a good sense.
I got spirit filled, I got baptized, I got a relationship with the LORD! I've been released of swearing, pornography, alcohol (althought that wasn't that bad), masturbation and lust.
I no longer have a bad self-image sinse God rebuild my whole self-image on Him!! I can actually look myself in the mirror these days, praise God for that.
I speak in tongues now *grin* and I actually read my bible and I love to go to my new church into which God lead me to be.
(O yes he also released me from Counter-strike, a computer game)

He gave me friends, and once I was rid of the porn thing I asked for friends from the opposite sex and he gave me that also (not a girlfriend!)
And He also gave me some mind-blowing prophecies as to what he wants todo in my life in the future.

I'm still sick (allergies mostly but quite annoying at times). Once when I asked the Lord why I'm still sick he asked me "Do you love me?" As I believe he already confirmed that He will heal me I believe Him and know I must only get closer to him and he will heal me

Ok that's my story in short

 

[its-me-again-777]

As I believe he already confirmed that He will heal me I believe Him and know I must only get closer to him and he will heal me

praise God for all the wonderfull things God has done for you. I rejoice in your salvation as I also was saved and know what it means to be deliverd.

I am just a little weary of some of the things you said. let me explain.

It seems to me you are basing a lot of stock in expierence. Tounges, Prophecies conerning yourself, being heeled if you get closer to God.

expierences are good. heelings, and tounges happen as God sees fot to bring them in our lives. As far as prophecies who ever is prophesing needs 100 percent accuracy. I believe there are no prophets today. the Bible is complete and the Holy Spirit is in every believer leading and guideing into truth. sooth saying predictions are all I have ever heard out of these so called prophets.

Anyway my point is this trust Gods word. Peter said " you have a more sure word of prophecy where by you do well to take heed to. Dont trust expierences trust Gods word.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Hi my fellow saints... (whoa that sounds funny but hey that how Paul opens his letters )

My heart goes out to those of you with problems. I really wish I could help or something. I hope the Lord bless me in Deliverance Ministry in the future... but first He have to sort out some other stuff with me.

I just like to talk some encouragement to you!
My whole life was turned upside down last year, in a good sense.
I got spirit filled, I got baptized, I got a relationship with the LORD! I've been released of swearing, pornography, alcohol (althought that wasn't that bad), masturbation and lust.
I no longer have a bad self-image sinse God rebuild my whole self-image on Him!! I can actually look myself in the mirror these days, praise God for that.
I speak in tongues now *grin* and I actually read my bible and I love to go to my new church into which God lead me to be.
(O yes he also released me from Counter-strike, a computer game)

He gave me friends, and once I was rid of the porn thing I asked for friends from the opposite sex and he gave me that also (not a girlfriend!)
And He also gave me some mind-blowing prophecies as to what he wants todo in my life in the future.

I'm still sick (allergies mostly but quite annoying at times). Once when I asked the Lord why I'm still sick he asked me "Do you love me?" As I believe he already confirmed that He will heal me I believe Him and know I must only get closer to him and he will heal me

Ok that's my story in short

That's a wonderful story Heinrich. God is blessing you. You hold on to those words of God to you. If they are confirmed in your own spirit, don't let anyone tell you to let go. Keep your mind and thoughts on God and every plan He has for you will happen. Then like Paul, when it is over, you will be able to say, I have finished the race.

Lord we thank You for your faithfullness. Even when we are faithless you remain faithful. We thank You God, that by your stripes Heinrich is healed of these pesky allergies. We thank You God that Your presense drives out all evil and no harm can come to Heinrich. We thank You that You are the Deliverer. You are our Might and our Strength. And that through You Heinrich can do all things. Thank you God that his heart beats hard after You.

 

[Lottedah]

I used to be a soothsayer and my information came from demons. The voice of the holy spirit is totally different. THe bible says to test the prophets and the messengers and all words you receive from anyone by their fruit. It does not say that all prophecy is wicked does it?
Then by all means please test our fruit and if its nasty dirty gross tasting fruit do let me know so i can work on it! is that a deal?
Lord show him ALL there is of your glory in jesus name

 

[Lottedah]

Quaffer you are going to be so blessed for starting this thread because its awesome

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

I did'nt start this thread. . .you did

 

[Lottedah]

im such a bimbo i thought i was on ministry of encouraging words.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

im such a bimbo i thought i was on ministry of encouraging words.

You're not a bimbo. . .your words were encouraging

 

[Anthony]

Why are we wasting our time fighting over stupid issues and picking fights and ending fights and keeping fights going and always picking and belittling and being at each others throats when we have one common goal (I assume)

Lottedah

Why do we fight? Because the other person doesn't agree or go along with our viewpoint. We feel that our viewpoint is the correct, and everyone else's is wrong. It gets worse when emotions and self are wrapped up in our viewpoints. God forbid we look at the other side of an issue or viewpoint.

For example, I don't agree with Quaffer on a number of issues, but she is always patient in our debates, she ask questions and "challenges" me to think through not only my side/viewpoint, but she "accepts" questions and challenges from me towards her as well. She had never gotten emotional or shown a hint of being defensive. If I want an honest viewpoint which is different then mine, I know she will be honest and humble.

I never feel like my debates with Quaffer are fights but rather a growing and testing process. Too many Christians use other people's doctrines, and don't do any more study of the Bible, everything is dreams, visions, and God talking to them.

RO 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will