ah... i think the best thing i could say, is that what about your friends? and also what about your place in helping God? first the friends we have in Heaven are so great to us, and we are great too being angels and pure good no matter what, that we actualy kinda give ourselves away in ways that we always find a way back.. i mean sometimes like having 10$ givin 8$ seems alot but you get back 12 or something, the same with the blessedness ever continuing.. well what if you are so special and God is so great, of corse, that He gives us our best treating friends so that we can even trust so good and give 10 away and get back like 100... well i think in the little boundries of that way its able to be true in certian groups, just our group is actually everyone that goes to Heaven... so the next point is Helping God, which you know about the bad well there is still good, the whole world is mainly good, its just sometimes we need to learn how to get past some stuff, knowing that if we dont go around it will cause us to be let down, or whatever.. so we are given a challenge, again i believe in the life before birth, just not called life, but we do have the same we will be to choose even with God... He only lets us have the choices of what we can handel and all choices are the same in Heaven... for some reason i think this cause of a vision i had once, i was in Heaven with 2 angels on each side looking ahead there were 12 box shaped clouds in a big box, well i didnt know what to do, they all looked the same... so i think that in Heaven we are planned to do what we can do, and we do that for God, something we dont even know about now, but up there it will arive to us as our glory... truly to think about it also, because we were made from so little to so so much, and even ever able to go on, just being a real human we will try to continue, just like Jesus said to some they are the son of the evil well we are the children of God, and will go to Heaven, we are mainly good and not trying to do bad... so i think that if you can see that Heaven kinda is a big step, what if because we were from before, Heaven, the best place, is just the second step... then we will have the chance to walk on... so those in Heaven already will always stay in Heaven, i hope..., i have a hard time believin in the most evil being ever an angel of God... i dont know though...WingsOfTheNeophyte said:I was thinking about this and never found a satisfactory answer, my logical problem stems like this-> Why was I and all the other people born in a world ravaged by a fallen angel and not in heaven in the presence of God? I have asked this question to some Christians and one of them told me that if we were born in heaven then we would not have the choice to do evil, this was not satisfactory because as Christians say Lucifer obviously managed to choose evil in heaven, that means that the specific choice of good or evil exists even in heaven, I was thinking about this for a long time and still it makes no sence to me, why would a loving God put us in this place full of evil, with the full knowledge that many more of us would choose evil and be misguided, torn away from him rather than let us be born in heaven, taught the unquestionable truth about the universe rather than be born here, full of doubt, with many questions around not knowing what is true and as a result of which many will burn in hell for eternity, why not simply be born in heaven?
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