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If something like this hasn't been made already as a skit and thrown up on Youtube, I wanna see it made lol.I can't recall the last time a couple of older female atheists came to my door on a Saturday morning to share the "bad news" with me lol. Seriously though...
Many intellectuals of yesteryear used to predict that as western culture became more educated and more intelligent that religion would die off - especially Christianity. The assumption was that there were religious people because of a lack of education and low intelligence.
But they were wrong. All of these predictions have always been wrong.
There are equally brilliant, educated, and intelligent people who are both atheists and religious. The difference doesn't seem to be one of education or intelligence. So what is the difference?
Why are there religious people? Christianity has an answer, but what's the secular answer?
I agree with keeping things such as young earth creationism out of class rooms in public school as well as unproven scientic theories presented as fact.
You have the right to promote your own unsubstantiated beliefs.
There are many more books on the same subjects, from the same times, many of which were not considered for inclusion in the standard Protestant Bible. Some of these works, for example from the times of the early church fathers ... were quoted heavily by them, some arguably considered scripture ... yet not included. So from one perspective, the Bible is cherry picked. And to say it all hangs together, is debatable even amongst believers.
Actually ... there have been estimated over a million cuneiform writings that have been found and excavated (tablets, cylinder seals, etc) which predate the oldest scriptures in the Bible from what I understand (i.e. the Enuma Elish) ... of which out of that number, only something like 5% - 10% have been translated ? I've always wondered what the translation of some of them might reveal about some of the scriptural accounts and if it would change any POV on such things.
Yes my tongue
Okay out of those points you brought up ... I'll ask one: do you have any evidence of the existence of "sin" ? I'm not talking about pointing to someone's actions and saying they are sinful, rather, the existence of "sin". Any evidence that would distinguish it ?
Makes me happy to know your dad was loved
Thanks so far for the convoActually, you and I are in agreement here. I am an avid reader...I've read quite a few of The Dead Sea Scrolls and several books from the Nag Hammadi Library.
I've learned quite a bit that I didn't know before.
Lots of people say that sin is disobedience to God.
I have a different definition...well, sorta.
Sin is what causes harm. Yes, I believe that disobeying God causes harm...but I think the real issue is the harm.
To intentionally cause harm, or even carelessly cause harm...that is the essence of sin.
Yes I can follow that. I live my life that way, and always have thus far. I've gone, almost literally, to the ends of the earth for those I love and care about, and always let them know. No regretsMe, too. Life is too short not to let the people we love know that they are loved...if you can follow all of that...
Thanks so far for the convoTo keep us from a circular convo, I'll stop with the questions
Yes I can follow that. I live my life that way, and always have thus far. I've gone, almost literally, to the ends of the earth for those I love and care about, and always let them know. No regrets
Dear man, I certainly do not mind your questions. I enjoy talking about my faith.
I enjoyed our conversation very much, and I do hope we will talk again sometime.
I am delighted to find an atheist who is not telling me about pink unicorns or leprechauns...or "skydaddies"...
But who is a gentleman who listens to what I have to say, politely.
Thank you very much for that.
Are you quite sure you are not a closet Christian?
LOL, just kidding!
In the case of Archaeopteryx he once had faith on this forum but at some point decided to work against the idea of God.
It does seem true though that the gift of faith is grace, not so much a decision but forsaking the faith gift and working against God is a decision. There is nothing wrong with doubts per say, but Atheism is doubt made into a religious belief system.
I can't recall the last time a couple of older female atheists came to my door on a Saturday morning to share the "bad news" with me lol. Seriously though...
If what you're saying was true Colter, you wouldn't have to try to construct rational arguments to defend it...it would just be obvious to everyone. The mere fact that you have to try to convince people that atheism is a "religion" or "dogmatic" or is being "promoted" just goes to show it's none of those things. Any belief system that has those characteristics is blatantly obvious to all...it tries to be.
See. This is why I don't take your posts seriously anymore. Bad manners, among other things.
No, it hasn't.
#You are assuming that people are honest, you yourself pointed out above that it's againt the forum rules to promote atheism so I'm beginning to understand why the Atheist here are so defensive about calling the promotion of Atheism a movment, belief or form of doctrine.
The New Atheism has no problem being honest about what they are doing.
New Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"New Atheism is a social and political movement in favour of atheism and secularism promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument"
Like a soccer match, rolling around on the ground faking injury.
For someone that you claim not to take seriously, you sure do reply to me a lot.
I think you do take me seriously, I've spoken truth to you and that's what bothers you.
You are assuming that people are honest, you yourself pointed out above that it's againt the forum rules to promote atheism so I'm beginning to understand why the Atheist here are so defensive about calling the promotion of Atheism a movment, belief or form of doctrine.
The New Atheism has no problem being honest about what they are doing.
"New Atheism is a social and political movement in favour of atheism and secularism promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument"
New Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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So you feel that "New Atheism" is honest about what they are doing, and you feel that plain atheism isn´t?
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So you feel that "New Atheism" is honest about what they are doing, and you feel that plain atheism isn´t?
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