Why are there no cows in the Devonian?

[Loudmouth]

No, that is scientific. Religious idea does not need any hypothesis. It is not possible to assume a falsification and still be creationism. It is against the definition.

Actually, that is a good definition. Creationism is a belief that one can not question. You also can't allow yourself to doubt, at all.

If you did question creationism then it would collapse, so you can't allow anyone to question it.

 

[juvenissun]

Yeah, it does. In science, we require a null hypothesis. We think it's kind of important.



It's the dogmatic religious part that makes it non-scientific.

Creationism INCLUDES science.
Do you understand something includes something else?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Creationism INCLUDES science.
Do you understand something includes something else?

Creationism is a theory about how life came to be on earth. That is all.

 

[juvenissun]

Actually, that is a good definition. Creationism is a belief that one can not question. You also can't allow yourself to doubt, at all.

If you did question creationism then it would collapse, so you can't allow anyone to question it.

The key of Creationism is that IT ANSWERS.
As long as it answers, there is no need to question it.

If you don't think the answer is right, then argue about the issue, not the Creationism. If you win, then the Creationism naturally busts. Don't jump over the real issue and talk about illusive idea. Argue like a scientist.

 

[juvenissun]

Creationism is a theory about how life came to be on earth. That is all.

So?

 

[Loudmouth]

The key of Creationism is that IT ANSWERS.

How do you determine if those answers are true?

If you don't think the answer is right, then argue about the issue, not the Creationism. If you win, then the Creationism naturally busts. Don't jump over the real issue and talk about illusive idea. Argue like a scientist.

You are telling me that the answer can not be wrong, no matter what the evidence is. That's the problem.

 

[Queller]

Creationism INCLUDES science.
Do you understand something includes something else?

If it cannot be falsified, then by definition, it cannot include science. A fundamental D) part of science is that it is falsifiable.

 

[Loudmouth]

Creationism INCLUDES science.

Creationism does not include the scientific method. That is why it is not science. Creationism starts with the conclusion, and the ignores evidence that contradicts the conclusion. That is the opposite of science.

Do you understand something includes something else?

The Harry Potter books include science. They are still fiction.

 

[46AND2]

lifepsyop,

You claim that the fossil record can be explained by a combination of ecological sorting, and differential escape...

Why don't creation "scientists" come up with their own geological column, describing exactly what the animals did in any particular location, based on what is observed in the fossil record?

Why do they not do this, get it "creationist peer reviewed" until they can come up with a model that they are all satisfied with, then present this new geologic column to science?

 

[juvenissun]

Wow. Just...wow.

Then why did you claim creationism was scientific? If it is not falsifiable, it is not scientific.

In order for something to be scientific, it has to be ALL the things that constitute science. You can't say it is scientific, except for the falsification part. That exception excludes it from being science. Period.

Hey, I am going to accuse you that you can not read !!!

I did not say creationism IS scientific. I said creationism INCLUDES everything which is scientific.

Do you understand? Creationism has something IN EXTRA, which is not arguable.

 

[PsychoSarah]

So?

Saying that it is also directly responsible for the ideas and study of science are a bit off. If you think about it, without original sin, people probably wouldn't have invented or thought about how the world works.

If you think about it, the serpent didn't lie: Adam and Eve didn't die as soon as they ate that fruit, and it did give them knowledge.

 

[Loudmouth]

I did not say creationism IS scientific. I said creationism INCLUDES everything which is scientific.

The Harry Potter books include science. They are still fiction.

 

[PsychoSarah]

The Harry Potter books include science. They are still fiction.

Let's be frank, they are mostly about magic.

 

[46AND2]

Creationism can not be falsified does not mean creationism is not scientific. Everything of creationism is scientific, except the falsification part, which is religious.

I know what I am talking about. You give me a fossil sequence, and I will try to explain it scientifically.

Hey, I am going to accuse you that you can not read !!!

I did not say creationism IS scientific. I said creationism INCLUDES everything which is scientific.

Do you understand? Creationism has something IN EXTRA, which is not arguable.

I'll be awaiting your apology.

 

[Loudmouth]

Let's be frank, they are mostly about magic.

So is creationism.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I'll be awaiting your apology.

An apology is not something you ask for and get in return on the internet.

 

[PsychoSarah]

So is creationism.

How most people interpret it, yes. But, who knows? The science of today would appear to be magic to the people of yesterday.

 

[juvenissun]

Creationism does not include the scientific method. That is why it is not science. Creationism starts with the conclusion, and the ignores evidence that contradicts the conclusion. That is the opposite of science.



The Harry Potter books include science. They are still fiction.

If you work in computer industry with this ignorance, you WILL have trouble.

What's in the Harry Potter does not INCLUDE science. "Inclusion" here is a logic term, but not a literature description.

 

[juvenissun]

I'll be awaiting your apology.

What did I say wrong?

 

[PsychoSarah]

If you work in computer industry with this ignorance, you WILL have trouble.

What's in the Harry Potter does not INCLUDE science. "Inclusion" here is a logic term, but not a literature description.

Well, the bible is a piece of literature.