Why are the poor...poor?

[OldWiseGuy]

So we could say that poverty is often a self inflicted wound, and so-called "victim blaming" might be entirely appropriate.

 

[Speedwell]

So we could say that poverty is often a self inflicted wound, and so-called "victim blaming" might be entirely appropriate.

Not as often as you like to pretend.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not as often as you like to pretend.

We could find out very easily with a case by case study. Then I won't have to pretend.

 

[Speedwell]

We could find out very easily with a case by case study. Then I won't have to pretend.

There are enough case studies already to show that poverty is not "often" self-inflicted.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

There are enough case studies already to show that poverty is not "often" self-inflicted.

Those studies are likely done by advocates, not skeptics.

 

[Speedwell]

Those studies are likely done by advocates, not skeptics.

But of course you don't know, and don't reallly care.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

But of course you don't know, and don't reallly care.

If I didn't care I wouldn't comment on it. Many of our problems will only be solved if we look more carefully at the so-called 'victims'. For example the best way to address the drug problem is to incarcerate or hospitalize the users (the so-called victims).

 

[Speedwell]

If I didn't care I wouldn't comment on it. Many of our problems will only be solved if we look more carefully at the so-called 'victims'. For example the best way to address the drug problem is to incarcerate or hospitalize the users (the so-called victims).

That's a proposed solution, not an analysis. First you have to understand the role that drugs play in poverty.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That's a proposed solution, not an analysis. First you have to understand the role that drugs play in poverty.

We have enough analysis, we need good solutions. We are 'always learning, but never able to come to the truth'.

 

[Speedwell]

We have enough analysis, we need good solutions.

So you understand the role that drugs play in poverty? Why didn't you say so?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So you understand the role that drugs play in poverty? Why didn't you say so?

It's well known. Drug use can cause poverty, and be the result of poverty. Regardless of which, it must be removed from the equation.