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Why are SDA so paraoid of Jesuits?

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Tzaousios

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Are you sure want to resort to the dark ages methods against the protestant reformers - on "every post"??

Is this another pejorative use of the term "dark ages?" If not, please demonstrate how that applies to an actual historical time period.
 
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Not to mention that the Jesuits weren't even around during the period some call the Dark Ages. Go figure. Of course historians are beginning to realize that the Dark Ages weren't really so dark.

Indeed. Although there are still some posters in GT who deny it right and left, "dark ages" is now used mostly to describe any time period, people, or actions that anti-Catholics do not like, or, if it is used chronologically to any extent, to denote the period from the death of the last apostle to the sixteenth century.
 
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Hey i am not saying that there is not someone out there still saying "hmmm dark ages - sounds like pretty good times to me".

But some of us don't do that.

What, "some of us" co-opt the term as a rhetorically pejorative term to describe things one perceives as "Catholic?"
 
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Hey i am not saying that there is not someone out there still saying "hmmm dark ages - sounds like pretty good times to me".

But some of us don't do that.


What, "some of us" co-opt the term as a rhetorically pejorative term to describe things one perceives as "Catholic?"

Let's say for the sake of argument that you consider the doctrine of the virgin birth to be "Catholic".

Have you ever -- even once heard me or any Protestant refer to the virgin birth as "dark ages superstition" or "a throw back to the dark ages"?? or any such thing??

When someone brings up the dark ages does any protestant then say "oh - you mean the doctrine of the virgin birth" -- in real life?

in Christ,

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Indeed. Although there are still some posters in GT who deny it right and left, "dark ages" is now used mostly to describe any time period, people, or actions that anti-Catholics do not like, .

hmm so then the meeting between the Fatima event - happened in the "dark ages" according to some Protestant you know?

on this thread the point is made that the Pope abolished the Jesuits - but that a few pope's later they started to come back -- in the 19th century.

Do you find that we Protestants refer to the 19th century as "the dark ages"??

Or do we say "the Jesuits were raised back up - in the dark ages - in the 1800's"
 
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So what? Does this mean you use it almost always in the pejorative sense or to describe an actual historical period?
 
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Not to mention that the Jesuits weren't even around during the period some call the Dark Ages. Go figure. Of course historians are beginning to realize that the Dark Ages weren't really so dark.

Maybe they were around but just hiding in the dark.
 
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So what? Does this mean you use it almost always in the pejorative sense or to describe an actual historical period?

it means it is not a euphemism for 'whatever is Catholic'.

Refers to the blind superstition/practices/ignorance of the real dark ages.

in Christ,

Bob
 
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it means it is not a euphemism for 'whatever is Catholic'.

Refers to the blind superstition/practices/ignorance of the real dark ages.

Interesting. So, in your estimation, who was not engaging in "blind superstition/practices/ignorance" in the dark ages?
 
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All of the USA's founding fathers were secret Jesuits.

No, they were Freemasons: most of them.

George Washington, John Jay, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison (more or less,) and Thomas Jefferson (questionable.)

Just getting the facts straight, just in case you weren't just making a silly statement to try to make someone else's arguments look silly by comparison.
 
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Originally Posted by MoreCoffee

All of the USA's founding fathers were secret Jesuits.
Thanks for that info.
I found this about them doing a google search:

Global Insights


Now, what about the Founding Fathers of the United States?
Something like 98% of the Founding Fathers of the United States were MASONS.
Their main religious affiliation was UNITARIAN.

The rest were either Catholic or Church of England. If you will look at the Masonic rolls of Boston (MA), New York (NY), Philadelphia (PA), Richmond (VA) and a dozen other cities lining the east coast, it reads like a Who’s Who in American History.
Many of the historical figures who came to help The Colonies in their break from England (e.g. Lafayette from France and Polaski from Poland) were also Masons. In fact, many of the officers who were fighting on the British side were also Masons. Masons, at that time, were DEISTS. A deist is one who believes that a God created the world but that same God doesn’t interfere with it. Most Christians are theists. A theist sees God interfering with or can interfere with what’s happening in the world. (This isn’t any different than the Pagans who believed that the gods interfered with the lives of humans.)
In other words, the Founding Fathers of this country saw that what happens here was up to them. It wasn’t God’s will that The Colonies break away from England. It wasn’t God’s will that there be a United States of America. Nor was Manifest Destiny God’s will. It wasn’t God’s will that the United States eventually become a world power.....................

http://www.christianforums.com/t7594514-4/
Freemasonry, Illuminati NWO



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All of the USA's founding fathers were secret Jesuits.
The funny thing here is you're right in a most abstract and general way, in that the cabal Albert Pike started in masonry, was in league with Giuseppe Mazzini.
 
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