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That's a misunderstanding of the early church. While there were churches where people sold their belongings and gave to each other it was NEVER commanded to be so. The churches gave to each other because because they wanted to and not because they were commanded or forced to.Socialism is Biblical and was the norm for the early Christians.
I find it interesting that the majority of posts here are attacking Christians and very vile towards those that are not liberal. The left is doing the very thing they often accuse the right of doing. The vehemence from the left is much stronger than from the right.
I am centre-left and I am a fundamentalist bible-believing born again Christian. So how do you explain that? They are not mutually exclusive. And I see the exact opposite. I don't know why most Christians are right wing, makes no sense to me.I find it interesting that the majority of posts here are attacking Christians and very vile towards those that are not liberal. The left is doing the very thing they often accuse the right of doing. The vehemence from the left is much stronger than from the right.
Incorrect. Bible says to obey the laws of the rulers. Back then, there were laws of rulers for taxes and goods to be redistributed. So that is simply incorrect. And most people would not give without legislation, because we live in a fallen world. Why do you only see it as "forced" that's often suspicious as if people are greedy and want to hold on to their money. Socialism is a good concept and those who disagree with it are usually greedy. I'm a Christian who doesn't care that my tax money goes to programs that help the poor, because I WANT to help the poor. That should be everyone's mindset.Socialism is forced upon people. It is forced giving using the power of government. That is not a biblical concept.
Why would it be surprising? Jesus' teachings are rooted far more in socialism than capitalism... I'm not sure why you would think capitalism is better. Socialism is far more moral and biblical.
Well he did not preach "Marxism", because that's a more new concept and I agree Marx was against all religion. But he preached concepts of socialism like giving back. The problem is governments are corrupt these days as the state of our fallen world, so they can use tax money on corruption. The concept itself is good though.That's not true. Jesus did not preach socialism. He did not preach capitalism either.
Biblically greed cuts all ways. It teaches that self greed of putting things over God is wrong. It also teaches that demanding what others have is also greedy and wrong. The Bible never teaches that owning things or having money is wrong. The poor are not more righteous than the rich.
I never understood this because what the right stands for is not even biblical. Two of the things that are absolutely biblical and correct from the right/conservatism are : 1. Anti-LGBT and 2. Pro-Life. And I agree with this, along with general traditional family values and biblical morality. But everything else in the right wing you can argue is completely against Christianity and what Jesus taught. Everything in the right seems to be based on political identity and culture, not Jesus Christ. So I don't understand why right wing politics caters to Christian evangelicals so much.
That's not true. Jesus did not preach socialism. He did not preach capitalism either.
Biblically greed cuts all ways. It teaches that self greed of putting things over God is wrong. It also teaches that demanding what others have is also greedy and wrong. The Bible never teaches that owning things or having money is wrong. The poor are not more righteous than the rich.
Incorrect. Bible says to obey the laws of the rulers. Back then, there were laws of rulers for taxes and goods to be redistributed. So that is simply incorrect. And most people would not give without legislation, because we live in a fallen world. Why do you only see it as "forced" that's often suspicious as if people are greedy and want to hold on to their money. Socialism is a good concept and those who disagree with it are usually greedy. I'm a Christian who doesn't care that my tax money goes to programs that help the poor, because I WANT to help the poor. That should be everyone's mindset.
The concept has its roots in the bible. It's based around sharing, sharing came from scripture originally. The original kingdoms of biblical times had socialist policies. But I agree you can argue there was capitalism in the bible too because it did talk about private property as well. That's why I like democratic socialism the most personally.Neither Christ nor the apostles taught that people should be forced to give. Socialism is a societal construct and it is not taught by scripture. It's fine if people want socialism and vote for it. But don't try and base it upon scripture.
Neither Christ nor the apostles taught that people should be forced to give. Socialism is a societal construct and it is not taught by scripture. It's fine if people want socialism and vote for it. But don't try and base it upon scripture.
Then what you have is a serious public relations problem because the impression made by the Christian Right is that their doctrines have little or nothing to do with the Gospel of Christ.
You have it backwards. Christian evangelicals cater to right wing politics.
The Right Wing is a cultural gang, not a lot different from the Crips or Bloods or MS 13. Jesus is not their way of life, Jesus is just their gang sign.
Christian evangelicals who are part of the right wing cultural gang (the WASP culture gang, actually) are merely their chaplains. You know, like the chaplain on a ship...he gets called to the bridge to pray during a storm, but he has no say in where the ship is going.
What the bible preaches, explicitly, is:
At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, The goal is equality. As it is written: "The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little." -- 2 Corinthians 8
When American Christians are confronted with that verse, they immediately start yammering about "socialism" to deflect from the fact that they simply don't want to do what scripture clearly tells them to do. So they slap a boogeyman label on it and run away.
It depends on what YOU call the right thing. The Bible tells all believers they should give when they see a need. It NEVER commands that people be forced to give.I think you have a skewed vision as to what “being a Christian” is if one needs to be “compelled” by biblical command to do the right thing!
Socialism was not invented by Marx. Socialism existed in biblical times and long before Marx. I am speaking solely of the concept and the principles, not what Marx created and his version of it which is wrong. No such thing as Christian socialism? Wrong.
Christian socialism - Wikipedia
Socialism is a Christian concept, giving to others and sharing was taught by Jesus. Only America thinks capitalism is the Christian way lol. It's kind of funny how people can think greed is more Christ-like and always makes excuses like something is forced when in capitalism, you are being forced as well only not to give back to others but to give your money to corporations. If you think government rule means you are "forced" then you wouldn't like any system because since the beginning of civilization and in biblical times there were always government rule otherwise things would be chaotic, we do live in a fallen word after all and in the bible kingdoms were set up because that's just the way it is and how the world is.
Even in communist Yugoslavia, only 1% of the population were atheist. 99% were religious, and this is fact... Socialism actually has nothing to do with religion, but the concept is a lot more Christ-like than capitalism is.
I don't operate that way. They are vitriolic and I could report them, but that's not how I roll.If they’re that bad, you should report them.
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