Why are Democrats suddenly silent on the Epstine files?

[Say it aint so]

You forgot about the part where Trump communicated with the FBI and shared what he knew so Epstine would be prosecuted. Did Trump know? Yes! And it was because of Trump that Epstine is not still free. But Clinton in those heels, he was slaying.

If only that were true. And you're talking about a painting.

So I ask one more time, "Please point me to those points of fact of any Democrat equally knowing. It may be there. I just haven't seen it. So since you are saying they knew, you must have some point of fact. Or are you just assuming?"

 

[durangodawood]

It's not a photo.

I just assumed people speak true things here. Silly me.

 

[Servus]

It's not a photo.

At what time have you ever looked at it without looking at a photo?

 

[perplexed]

Really so everyone knew about it the whole time?

Yes

 

[Oompa Loompa]

If only that were true. And you're talking about a painting.

So I ask one more time, "Please point me to those points of fact of any Democrat equally knowing. It may be there. I just haven't seen it. So since you are saying they knew, you must have some point of fact. Or are you just assuming?"

Stacy Plaskett. Dare I say more.

 

[Say it aint so]

Stacy Plaskett. Dare I say more.

Please do. Again, I not saying it wasnt possible, but where is it she knowingly kept quiet the knowledge Epstein as an active pedophile?

 

[Servus]

Yes

So there was a child sex trafficking operation that the whole world knew about; for how many years before they decided to prosecute Epstein?

 

[camille70]

Epstine's photo of Bill Clinton kicking back on a couch wearing a vlye dress and red heels was not redacted.

The painting has been identified as Parsing Bill by New York-based Australian artist Petrina Ryan-Kleid. (A print version is available on Saatchi Art starting at $40.) The more feverish corners of the internet immediately began to decode the imagery for clues—but the truth is that it was part of a body of student work produced quite independently of Epstein.

The Clinton painting comes from a pair of works by Ryan-Kleid that lightly satirized political figures. Its companion, a painting of George W. Bush called War Games, features the former president sitting on the floor of the White House playing with paper airplanes and two fallen Jenga towers, referencing his manipulation of the attacks of 9/11 to justify war in Iraq, the defining scandal of Bush’s White House tenure. As for Parsing Bill, the blue dress seems a likely reference to the blue dress that served as evidence in the former president’s affair with Monica Lewinsky, the scandal that marked Clinton’s time in office.

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Earlier today, Ryan-Kleid said in a statement to artnet News that she had no idea where the painting had ended up until she saw it light up the news yestereday:

In 2012, as a grad student at the New York Academy of Art, I painted pictures of Presidents Bill Clinton and Bush as part of my Master’s thesis. When the school put on a fundraiser at the Tribeca Ball that year, they sold my painting to one of the attendees. I had no idea who the buyer was at the time. As with most of my paintings, I had completely lost track of this piece when it was sold seven years ago. So it was a complete surprise to me to learn yesterday that it wound up in Epstein’s home.

Here's the Story Behind That Bizarre Painting of Bill Clinton in a Blue Dress Seen at Jeffrey Epstein's Home | Artnet News

The painting by Petrina Ryan-Kleid has launched 1,000 conspiracy theories. But the artist says she had no idea Epstein owned it.

news.artnet.com

 

[camille70]

WASHINGTON – Former President Bill Clinton’s spokesperson called for the Justice Department to release all of its documents about the investigation of accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, to avoid insinuating wrongdoing against people "who have been repeatedly cleared."

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Clinton needs no protection from releasing all remaining documents that mention or contain a photograph of him, Urena said in a social media post on Monday, Dec. 22.

But “selective releases to imply wrongdoing” would confirm “the widespread suspicion” that releases are about “insinuation” implying wrongdoing rather than transparency, Urena said.

Clinton calls for release of all Epstein documents to avoid 'insinuation'

Former President Bill Clinton calls for release of all documents that mention or picture him in the Jeffrey Epstein files.

www.usatoday.com

 

[perplexed]

So there was a child sex trafficking operation that the whole world knew about; for how many years before they decided to prosecute Epstein?

Six years

 

[Servus]

Six years

AI says The public and law enforcement were aware of Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse of minors for over two decades before he was finally arrested and federally charged with sex trafficking in July 2019.

 

[perplexed]

Epstein was a known predator in the nineties and first arrested in 2006

 

[perplexed]

I can tolerate people claiming Trump was oblivious in the same way as the parents of Michael Jackson's victims but ignoring multiple reports of child abuse and sweetheart deals are beyond the pale

 

[camille70]

So apparently the redactions for the Epstein documents were done in Word so all you have to do is cut and paste the files to read them.

The DOJ has also since put out a disclaimer.

The Department of Justice has officially released nearly 30,000 more pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein.

Some of these documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right before the 2020 election. To be clear: the claims are unfounded and false, and if they had a shred of credibility, they certainly would have been weaponized against President Trump already.

Nevertheless, out of our commitment to the law and transparency, the DOJ is releasing these documents with the legally required protections for Epstein’s victims.

https://x.com/TheJusticeDept/status/2003442658643988641?s=20

If Trump has never been investigated i wonder how it was determined the allegations were false and by whom.

So there is a debate whether this is incompetence or silent resistance.

 

[Say it aint so]

2019 letter from Epstein to like minded pedophile Larry Nassar where he expounds they are both being treated unfairly, unlike this other person. That person Epstein refers to is Donald J Trump.

The letter, postmarked 13 August 2019 and sent from “J Epstein” at “Manhattan Correctional” to “Larry Nassar”, reads:

“Dear L.N. as you know by now, I have taken the ‘short route’ home. Good Luck! We share one thing … our love & caring for young ladies at the hope they’d reach their full potential. Our president also shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to ‘grab snatch,’ whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system. Life is unfair. Yours, J. Epstein.”

 

[Hans Blaster]

So apparently the redactions for the Epstein documents were done in Word so all you have to do is cut and paste the files to read them.

Saw some of those. It seems to be part of the most recent batch.

The DOJ has also since put out a disclaimer.

The Department of Justice has officially released nearly 30,000 more pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein.

Some of these documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right before the 2020 election. To be clear: the claims are unfounded and false, and if they had a shred of credibility, they certainly would have been weaponized against President Trump already.

Nevertheless, out of our commitment to the law and transparency, the DOJ is releasing these documents with the legally required protections for Epstein’s victims.

How dumb do they think we are? Dumber than the DOJ media mouthpieces? (Sheesh, that is dumb. How insulting.)

They are peddling lies and conspiracies. If anything the Epstein releases (from DOJ and the Epstein Estate releases by the House) have leaned toward the more extreme claims circulating about than they do toward "innocence".

If Trump has never been investigated i wonder how it was determined the allegations were false and by whom.

So there is a debate whether this is incompetence or silent resistance.

Why not both?

 

[camille70]

One of the documents released showed Epstein’s brother reported to the FBI that he thinks Trump had him killed. So now he's being asked about it.

https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2003505677772169483?s=20

 

[camille70]

BTW there is a new Hunter Biden interview on YouTube. I haven't watched it, it's five hours, but there are a few clips floating around where he gives his opinion on Epstein and Trump.

 

[ViaCrucis]

That doesn't keep one from being tied to what went on. But I was just saying why Clintion being tied to it would be a big deal, rather than claiming than he was tied in with it.

How many times do we have to say that if Clinton is fount out to have done anything he should have the book thrown at him, locked up and the key thrown away for y'all to understand that we mean it.

This idea that we want to protect Clinton is wild nonsense. Anyone who partook of the evil things that went on with Epstein, regardless of who they were or what political party they are affiliated with, should have the full weight of the law come against them. The victims deserve justice.

Republican, Democrat; Trump, Clinton. It doesn't matter. The victims deserve justice. Nobody in a position of power is above the law. Period.

 

[Nithavela]

How many times do we have to say that if Clinton is fount out to have done anything he should have the book thrown at him, locked up and the key thrown away for y'all to understand that we mean it.

This idea that we want to protect Clinton is wild nonsense. Anyone who partook of the evil things that went on with Epstein, regardless of who they were or what political party they are affiliated with, should have the full weight of the law come against them. The victims deserve justice.

Republican, Democrat; Trump, Clinton. It doesn't matter. The victims deserve justice. Nobody in a position of power is above the law. Period.

I don't think that some people can conceptualise "turning againt the leader".

You might as well speak chinese at them. It just doesn't register.

Besides, this is the "the democrats are shushed because of the allegations against clinton" thread, so any protestations to the contrary are off topic.