Why are Christians treating me this way?

[roylee1970]

I understand your predicament. You believe you are entitled to the kind of help you have offered others, but maybe you have some blind spots?

#1. The fact that you list all the things you've done means you're missing the part of Holy Scripture that instructs us to give of ourselves completely, that is, to not expect a return. You are listing these things because now you expect a return. It is not the fault of the people who turn away from you, they probably often wish they could help, but clearly the Lord is not putting it in their heart or their resources to help you.

#2. If this feeling of entitlement goes back to when you had the resources to help others, perhaps it was setting you up for just exactly this kind of frustration, because you were actually "investing", not "giving".

#3. You might be breaking the 10th Commandment, "Do not covet...", and unwittingly placing yourself in a state of serious sin. The Christians who are rejecting your pleas for help might be unconsciously sensing this and spiritually praying for you.

This 10th commandment is a very subtle commandment. It is at the root of the previous 9.

Jay Notapplicable, I hope you will take my post in the love it is offered and deeply understand that if I had a million dollars right now, I would not send you any money, because you really don't need it.

What you need is an epiphany. Only the Holy Spirit can give you one.

Wise advice. It was once given to me when the hurt I felt from others not being as helpful to me as I was to them overtook my life. I took the advice to heart and have been happier and my life so much better as a result.

 

[andy b]

dont take this personal ..but you have accommodation .food, a computer you are looking to start a business..it dont sound much like skid row ...there are far worse off than you suck it up and stop begging

 

[Jay NotApplicable]

My electricity got shut off because I didn't have enough money to pay the bill. How was I to take care of a baby with as little money as I had? Just because I have a website and a business doesn't mean I have money. I haven't had my first customer yet. I don't have any money.

And for the people saying that I was doing all those things, expecting to be repaid, you are wrong. I did them out of the kindness of my heart. Maybe I worded myself wrong earlier. But I was not trying to get something in return for my good deeds. I simply expected that the church would take care of me in my time of need. I thought that was what the church was there for. I also felt that the good things that I was doing would someday be proof that I'm not a fraud trying to get free money from the church for selfish gain.

 

[PsychoSarah]

How about you carry the baby in with you when you describe the situation, offer to watch the kid for a day and give the woman a break or something if you don't want her to see how dire your money situation is. If you bring the kid with you, and show the need for clothes, etc. people will most likely not assume you are a fraud.

 

[Andrea411]

Hi, you might already know about my situation from previous posts, but some people might be new here, so forgive me for repeating myself about anything.

I've spent my entire adult life helping people. I had a dozen foster children in all, I've provided homes for the homeless, I pick up hitchhikers whenever I see them, I'm poor but I donate to other poorer people when they cross my path, and I help anybody who asks for my help.

So now when I'm in a time of need, I expect that others would treat me the way I've spent my life treating others. But I find it incredibly difficult to get any help at all from Christians. Nobody except my friends and family are willing to help me, with the exception of one very generous person here on the forums who donated $10 to me.

In addition to asking Christians for money, I also asked literally dozens of churches in my area for help. And not one was willing to give me a dime, except for the church that I actually attend. The pastor there gave me $2 cash.

I am on social security disability, and I've been trying to find a job that I can do for a year now, but nobody will hire me. So I've given up wasting my time trying to find a job that's not there, and I've started my own business. It's a video editing business. I convert people's old VHS home movies to DVD and YouTube videos. I also can convert other formats that were invented in the 1980's and 1990's, such as 9mm. But getting my business started required a few hundred dollars. And nobody was willing to help me until my stepmother got her tax return and lent me some money.

Now I've only just a day ago launched my business, and I haven't received any money from the business just yet. So lately I've been in need of a few dollars. But Christians are unwilling to help me. So I turned to the atheists. And you know what? They helped me. They know that I'm a Christian, and they respect me. And they are willing to help me. I think it's sad when the church won't help a Christian out, but atheists will.

HI Jay, its nice you found an atheist to help you, but you probably need more long term help, maybe in managing your money or in getting into a place where you can pay the bills. Possibly by renting a room in a private home.
A number of your threads have been closed and two involved a child rapist and some other deviant. I personally would be afraid of you. You haven't been here long enough to develop friendships, just long enough to try to scam people.

I'm not accusing you but we Christians are used to people coming to us and trying to guilt us into giving. Many times its just a scam so sorry I don't know you and it seems the people who do know you don't want to help?? I;m very sorry but maybe you should ask for a different kind of help. If you went and asked for prayer to grow closer to the Lord, you'd be more likely to make friends and find people willing to get to know you well enough to possibly help you.'Again, money is nice but sometimes the lack of it sends us to the place the Lord wants us or puts us in the place of need, where we seek Christ.

I can't know but I don't feel lead to help. You have my prayers for healing and that the Lord come along side of you, comfort you, teach you, and guide you. I have offered to help someone I got to know here, financially on this forum but the person refused, knowing the Lord had something in mind for her…. so its not that I'm stingy, as you suggest… but we are called to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.

God bless, andrea

 

[idomin00]

Wow....we need to be compassionate to one another....I guess that's how we love our neighbor....

 

[Andrea411]

Wow....we need to be compassionate to one another....I guess that's how we love our neighbor....

so get his address and send the man some of your money...

 

[freedomissacred]

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And for the people saying that I was doing all those things, expecting to be repaid, you are wrong. I did them out of the kindness of my heart. Maybe I worded myself wrong earlier. But I was not trying to get something in return for my good deeds. I simply expected that the church would take care of me in my time of need. I thought that was what the church was there for. I also felt that the good things that I was doing would someday be proof that I'm not a fraud trying to get free money from the church for selfish gain.

Well, Jay, you just admitted that I was right, not wrong. You just admitted that you expected something in return. Now, that's not your fault if that is what you learned and you never examined it, but it is still the same thing. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is. You can't turn it into something it is not. It is not living by faith in God's mercy, which is unlimited. It is living by dependence on human generosity, which is very limited.

See, you never expected God to take care of you, you expected "the church" to do it. We are not supposed to place our faith in human institutions or groups, but we are supposed to place it in God himself. The church is not there to supply our material needs, but it is there to supply our spiritual needs. It is not your fault that so many churches today teach a false doctrine of social dependence. Most of them mean well but are as blind as ever to the fact they are not helping anyone by promoting this false doctrine. It plants the seed of discontent and resentment wherever it appears since no group of human beings can possibly supply all the desires of all individual human beings.

Jay, seriously, just go into a quiet place, a church if possible or any peaceful meditative place, and ask God to help you through this, ask Him to heal your blind spots. Go over and over again until that spiritual healing takes place, like the man who bathed seven times before seeing his disease healed. Forgive the people who are disappointing you. They are doing nothing wrong but are simply not catering to your blind spot. We all have blind spots you know.

 

[selfinflikted]

Or, you could get a job that will make you a paycheck in addition to your startup. It's what most people do, rather than beg.