Why are "bastards" sent to Hell?

[SharonL]

Between manmade laws and words meaning different things in different times many things are misunderstood.

The only thing you need to be thinking about is when you accepted Jesus to be the Lord of your life you stand before him washed in the Blood of Jesus and your name in the Lamb's Book of Life all sins are in the lake of forgetfulness, never to be seen again.

God is not a respector of person - he tells us in His Word to call no man Father because He is our Father - you are a Child of God, equal in all ways and seen by God as His Child. You have no control over when you will be born and God will not damn anyone to Hell over something they have no control over.

You may not know your earthly father - but you know your Godly Father and that is what is important. Trying to understand the rules of the OT can really confuse you. Just put your hand in the hand of Jesus and let the Holy Spirit guide you and remember Jesus is as close as your shadow and only a heartbeat away - that is all that matters.

 

[LeoWyatt]

I read in Deuteronomy 23:2 that "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD."

I am absolutely appalled, especially considering that I am technically a "bastard" (I hate that word). Why does God send someone to hell if he's born outside marriage? Does your church practice this?

That verse says nothing of heaven or hell.

 

[Sketcher]

so illegitimate children in the OT go to hell? Was King David not thought to have been a "woods coat" and yet a man after "God's own heart"?

I did not say that, since the OT doesn't even say that - it only says they could not enter God's assembly. The OT only mentions Sheol, so the Jewish assumption is that illegitimate children would go to Sheol just as Jews in good standing would. Sheol in the New Testament is the "good" district of Hell, which Jesus emptied prior to his rising from the grave - those who died before him were given a chance to believe on him, and with his resurrection, he liberated them from it. Hades would be the bad district of Hell, think jail before prison. Gehenna would be the eternal lake of fire, which is the permanent, final Hell.
See: Luke 16:19-31, 1 Peter 3:18-19, Revelation 20:14

Where in the Bible are you seeing that David was not born of Jesse and his wife?

 

[aiki]

usually that doesn't happen ... i agree it was confusing ... i'm not sure what happened there ... well, i have an idea ... but not for here ... all i was trying to say is no one is judged to hell ... not even in the OT ... judgement hasn't happened ... and what i was feeling was this is a forum for babes ... why is everyone making everything so confusing by not keeping it simple ... somehow that came out the way it did ... anyway ... thanks for not raking me over the coals ...

I see. Well, believe it or not, the goal of my post was to explain and clarify, not confuse. I agree with you that many of those who ask questions on this forum are babes in the faith, but this doesn't mean they are stupid. Was there something in particular that I wrote that you thought was confusing?

Selah.

 

[lilmissmontana]

I see. Well, believe it or not, the goal of my post was to explain and clarify, not confuse. I agree with you that many of those who ask questions on this forum are babes in the faith, but this doesn't mean they are stupid. Was there something in particular that I wrote that you thought was confusing?

Selah.

i'm so sorry i haven't made it back to respond ... a lot happened in the time from the beginning of this to now ... i now understand what happened ...

first ... it honestly had nothing to do with you ... you were the one it just happened with ...

i couldn't agree with you more that no, they definitely are not stupid ... i would say more than once i've felt they are much more open to hear and see than the most ...

in that spirit i'm going to try to explain what happened ... i don't find that difficult ... but i do it with some trepedition, as i know how many times i've taken a beating for things like this ... believers have a difficult time believing in the Spirit for whatever reason ...

so ....

i had been absent from cf for some time ... the field that i had worked here for years ... that work is now a wellspring for weary travelers ... that time was over ... around that day of this thread i felt pulled back here ... one day i was completely satisfied doing what i was for the Lord where i was ... the next, restless and feeling like i needed to move from there ... hence here ... i can't remember what number of posts the one i made here was ... but around nine or ten ...

first i saw a post and went and asked a question about it ... the next thing i knew some dude was telling me he was God and i better watch what i said next ... it was surreal ... the thread was closed almost immediately ... so we have spirits flying all over the place ...

the next thing was i ended up here ... i have no idea how, but i did ... so i saw all these posts and wanted to add help ... started posting ... as you can imagine, the spirits here, too fly freely ... i forgot to ask the Lord for His covering ... that was the mistake i made ... maybe ...

along comes the spirit of confusion ... when i went back and read the posts ... there it was ... i even said i was so confused ... we know confusion is not a spirit of the Lord ... but it's one He uses ... He makes all things work to the good of those that love Him ...

i was given a word about a month ago that i wasn't acknowledging something and i needed to use my new wings and fly ... i could not for the life of me figure out what i wasn't acknowledging ...

He kept trying to show me ... but i didn't get it ... sometimes i can be really dense ...

the verses i used ... the lamb, sheep, and sheep ... that's what He kept trying to show me ... He elevated me to a new pasture ... no longer babes ... the next one ... and i know that for real He is so good ... i felt so stupid when it happened and felt so bad for knowing you had no idea what just happened ...

but mostly i wanted to come back and tell you that your response to me has stayed with me ... it's exactly how i thik Jesus would have spoken to me ... with love, and patience, and tolerance ... and that calm, rational response ... i had a dream once where He came and gave me a key ... He was the same way in that dream ... very reassuring ... it must be hard to post here a lot ... sad ... but i think you have a gift for it ... thank you ...

lilmiss