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Why Abortion should never be Outlawed!! (an honest, personal eperience) TRUTH!!!!
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<blockquote data-quote="FaithLikeARock" data-source="post: 58440423" data-attributes="member: 206083"><p>Beg pardon? It sounds to me like 16% was just a casual "Nah I don't want it". Of that 93%, the majority CAN'T raise a child - they don't have the financial or emotional security. Before you shout "BUT ADOPTION!" the adoption process in this country is so under funded and offers so little report that I would almost rather abort my child than stick them in a situation where most likely they will never have a stable home and most likely grow up to live on the streets. </p><p></p><p>I've heard of ridiculous reasons to get an abortion (the most shallow of which was "I don't want to be fat for 9 months" - no joke) but people tend to write any prospective mother who gets an abortion for non-medical reasons as a horrible person who killed her baby - not taking into account that she was a mother who worked full time and still barely made enough to support herself. Or that her boyfriend was abusive and she didn't want to bring a child into that situation. </p><p></p><p>And also, I say again, as I always do, I know many many people who are pro-life. But I know very FEW people who adopt. And most of the people I know who have adopted or plan to adopt aren't pro-life at all - they're very pro-choice. Strangely, there's a lot more people on the INTERNET who claim to adopt (emphasis on claim, because if every pro-life person on the Internet has adopted then why are there still children sitting in foster care?) </p><p></p><p>Pro-lifers just want to judge and criminalize others. But they take absolutely NO actions to actually improve matters. They think they can just make it illegal and that's the end. Why? Because that's easy. That doesn't effect them - they can effectively ignore the mothers dying from back alley abortions, the babies left on the curb, the expanding foster care system, the increasing number of children without families - and still think they did a good job because hey, abortion is illegal.</p><p></p><p>If every pro-life person sucked up their Christian pride to want to procreate and ADOPTED, then we wouldn't need abortion. But no. Instead, the only interest they seem to take in adoption is ensuring as few couples as possible can even adopt a child. The requirements are so stringent, both financially and in regards to the couple, and yet the weirdest sickos still get through and make those kids suffer. Meanwhile couples who are lower middle class (still enough to support a child), gay couples of course, stand idly by, unable to help a child. Because pro-lifers are too selfish to help these kids themselves, and yet too foolish and naive to open up the system to honest families can adopt these kids while they're off having their own into the double digits. It's disgusting. </p><p></p><p>In my opinion, if a family wants to have more than one kid, then they should look into adoption. They can have a genetic child, but they can help one that needs a family too. The days of "passing on your seed" are long gone - legacies are started through nurturing. </p><p></p><p>And in the meantime, all those pro-lifers in Congress (state and federal) that want to keep cutting medical care - one of the few resources these women have when they can't afford to be pregnant - can take responsibility for thousands of abortions that they will cause with the amount of women who won't be able to get medical care to pay for the hospital bills associated with pregnancy and child birth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FaithLikeARock, post: 58440423, member: 206083"] Beg pardon? It sounds to me like 16% was just a casual "Nah I don't want it". Of that 93%, the majority CAN'T raise a child - they don't have the financial or emotional security. Before you shout "BUT ADOPTION!" the adoption process in this country is so under funded and offers so little report that I would almost rather abort my child than stick them in a situation where most likely they will never have a stable home and most likely grow up to live on the streets. I've heard of ridiculous reasons to get an abortion (the most shallow of which was "I don't want to be fat for 9 months" - no joke) but people tend to write any prospective mother who gets an abortion for non-medical reasons as a horrible person who killed her baby - not taking into account that she was a mother who worked full time and still barely made enough to support herself. Or that her boyfriend was abusive and she didn't want to bring a child into that situation. And also, I say again, as I always do, I know many many people who are pro-life. But I know very FEW people who adopt. And most of the people I know who have adopted or plan to adopt aren't pro-life at all - they're very pro-choice. Strangely, there's a lot more people on the INTERNET who claim to adopt (emphasis on claim, because if every pro-life person on the Internet has adopted then why are there still children sitting in foster care?) Pro-lifers just want to judge and criminalize others. But they take absolutely NO actions to actually improve matters. They think they can just make it illegal and that's the end. Why? Because that's easy. That doesn't effect them - they can effectively ignore the mothers dying from back alley abortions, the babies left on the curb, the expanding foster care system, the increasing number of children without families - and still think they did a good job because hey, abortion is illegal. If every pro-life person sucked up their Christian pride to want to procreate and ADOPTED, then we wouldn't need abortion. But no. Instead, the only interest they seem to take in adoption is ensuring as few couples as possible can even adopt a child. The requirements are so stringent, both financially and in regards to the couple, and yet the weirdest sickos still get through and make those kids suffer. Meanwhile couples who are lower middle class (still enough to support a child), gay couples of course, stand idly by, unable to help a child. Because pro-lifers are too selfish to help these kids themselves, and yet too foolish and naive to open up the system to honest families can adopt these kids while they're off having their own into the double digits. It's disgusting. In my opinion, if a family wants to have more than one kid, then they should look into adoption. They can have a genetic child, but they can help one that needs a family too. The days of "passing on your seed" are long gone - legacies are started through nurturing. And in the meantime, all those pro-lifers in Congress (state and federal) that want to keep cutting medical care - one of the few resources these women have when they can't afford to be pregnant - can take responsibility for thousands of abortions that they will cause with the amount of women who won't be able to get medical care to pay for the hospital bills associated with pregnancy and child birth. [/QUOTE]
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