Statement of Purpose Whosoever Will, May Come - Statement of Purpose

[DarylFawcett]

Whosoever Will, May Come
A forum for all liberal Christians to discuss and fellowship.

A few things to know about WWMC members:

1) They believe that Jesus never shut out anyone based on age, race, gender identity, religious affiliation (or lack thereof), sexuality, or political views. If you are reading this you are welcome here.

2) WWMC members believe that God has shown that we all "see through the glass darkly" (I Cor. 13). It is therefore impossible for any human to fully know God's will, and therefore have a monopoly on the truth. They believe the Bible to be a valuable resource, but not free from error.

3) The members here believe God is merciful and loving: When we judge God's children (whom we all are) we transgress against God's express command. When we who are finite judge others, we presume on an infinite God's throne, His mercy and justice. Such judgments go against our beliefs. Further, we believe it is contrary to the teachings of Christ to judge, or have an opinion, on the final destination of any soul or group of souls. Such decisions are solely up to the Lord, our God.

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Christian Forums does not endorse homosexuality or same sex marriage, however, we do recognize the right of individual denominations and faith groups to determine whether or not to allow open discussion of these topics in their forums.

Guidelines for topics of homosexuality and same sex marriage:

The WWMC forum has open discussion on homosexuality and same sex marriage with fewer restrictions regarding promotion (both sides may discuss each point of view). The following guidelines will apply to open discussion on these topics:

• All posts must align with the sitewide rules, especially the rule about profanity and vulgarity (no discussions or images that are sexually explicit).
• Members may not make posts which could be considered blatant campaigning for the acceptance of homosexuality or SSM.
• Members may not distribute any blatant propaganda about homosexuality or SSM [propaganda: information of a biased or misleading nature used to promote or publicize a particular point of view].
• Members may not encourage another member to practice homosexuality or enter into a same sex marriage.

House Rules
All posts within this faith community must adhere to the site wide rules found here (Community Rules). In addition, if you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against it's theology. You may post in fellowship. Active promotion of views contrary to the established teachings of this group will be considered off topic.

 

[samiradedas]

Whosoever Will, May Come
A forum for all liberal Christians to discuss and fellowship.

A few things to know about WWMC members:

1) They believe that Jesus never shut out anyone based on age, race, gender identity, religious affiliation (or lack thereof), sexuality, or political views. If you are reading this you are welcome here.

2) WWMC members believe that God has shown that we all "see through the glass darkly" (I Cor. 13). It is therefore impossible for any human to fully know God's will, and therefore have a monopoly on the truth. They believe the Bible to be a valuable resource, but not free from error.

3) The members here believe God is merciful and loving: When we judge God's children (whom we all are) we transgress against God's express command. When we who are finite judge others, we presume on an infinite God's throne, His mercy and justice. Such judgments go against our beliefs. Further, we believe it is contrary to the teachings of Christ to judge, or have an opinion, on the final destination of any soul or group of souls. Such decisions are solely up to the Lord, our God.

​

Congregational Forums Disclaimer:

Christian Forums does not endorse homosexuality or same sex marriage, however, we do recognize the right of individual denominations and faith groups to determine whether or not to allow open discussion of these topics in their forums.

Guidelines for topics of homosexuality and same sex marriage:

The WWMC forum has open discussion on homosexuality and same sex marriage with fewer restrictions regarding promotion (both sides may discuss each point of view). The following guidelines will apply to open discussion on these topics:

• All posts must align with the sitewide rules, especially the rule about profanity and vulgarity (no discussions or images that are sexually explicit).
• Members may not make posts which could be considered blatant campaigning for the acceptance of homosexuality or SSM.
• Members may not distribute any blatant propaganda about homosexuality or SSM [propaganda: information of a biased or misleading nature used to promote or publicize a particular point of view].
• Members may not encourage another member to practice homosexuality or enter into a same sex marriage.

House Rules
All posts within this faith community must adhere to the site wide rules found here (Community Rules). In addition, if you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against it's theology. You may post in fellowship. Active promotion of views contrary to the established teachings of this group will be considered off topic.

Thank you for an update!

 

[Peter J Barban]

According to your statement:

"2) WWMC members believe that God has shown that we all "see through the glass darkly" (I Cor. 13). It is therefore impossible for any human to fully know God's will, and therefore have a monopoly on the truth. They believe the Bible to be a valuable resource, but not free from error.

3) The members here believe God is merciful and loving: When we judge God's children (whom we all are) we transgress against God's express command. When we who are finite judge others, we presume on an infinite God's throne, His mercy and justice. Such judgments go against our beliefs. Further, we believe it is contrary to the teachings of Christ to judge, or have an opinion, on the final destination of any soul or group of souls. Such decisions are solely up to the Lord, our God."

Doesn't point 3 violate point 2. If it is "impossible for any human to fully know God's will, and therefore have a monopoly on the truth", then how can one say "When we judge God's children (whom we all are) we transgress against God's express command"?

I don't think that you can have it both ways. If no one has a monopoly on the truth, and the Bible is not without errors, then how can you be sure that judging God's children is against God's will? What is the objective basis of your belief that "Jesus never shut out anyone based on age, race, gender identity, religious affiliation (or lack thereof), sexuality, or political views"?

Are you taking the position that although we don't know what is objectively true, we will enforce our subjective truths here?

 

[GACfan]

According to your statement:

"2) WWMC members believe that God has shown that we all "see through the glass darkly" (I Cor. 13). It is therefore impossible for any human to fully know God's will, and therefore have a monopoly on the truth. They believe the Bible to be a valuable resource, but not free from error.

3) The members here believe God is merciful and loving: When we judge God's children (whom we all are) we transgress against God's express command. When we who are finite judge others, we presume on an infinite God's throne, His mercy and justice. Such judgments go against our beliefs. Further, we believe it is contrary to the teachings of Christ to judge, or have an opinion, on the final destination of any soul or group of souls. Such decisions are solely up to the Lord, our God."

Doesn't point 3 violate point 2. If it is "impossible for any human to fully know God's will, and therefore have a monopoly on the truth", then how can one say "When we judge God's children (whom we all are) we transgress against God's express command"?

I don't think that you can have it both ways. If no one has a monopoly on the truth, and the Bible is not without errors, then how can you be sure that judging God's children is against God's will? What is the objective basis of your belief that "Jesus never shut out anyone based on age, race, gender identity, religious affiliation (or lack thereof), sexuality, or political views"?

Are you taking the position that although we don't know what is objectively true, we will enforce our subjective truths here?

According to the last paragraph in this forum's SOP, debating issues or teaching against the theology within this forum isn't permitted and it's unlikely the rules for this forum are debatable either.

In addition, if you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against it's theology. You may post in fellowship. Active promotion of views contrary to the established teachings of this group will be considered off topic.

Perhaps DarylFawcett can clarify that for us.