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Sure, Moses' wife was most probably very dark-skinned, like the Beloved in the Song of Songs (1:5). The Greek historian Herodotos notes that the Ethiopians were regarded as μεγιστοι και καλλιστοι ανθρωπων παντων, the biggest and most beautiful of all people (History 3.20).

Miriam and Aaron are most likely objecting to her being a foreigner, not reacting against her melanin level.
 
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She was not an African,I do not think,the connection cannot be made with modern Ethiopia been old Ethiopia.

Strong's Hebrew has...

3571 Kuwshiyth koo-sheeth' feminine of 3569; a Cushite woman: -Ethiopian.

A Cushite woman!

Some Translations use ''Cushite''

Some Bible translations like the American Standard Version,English Standard Version,Good News Translation,The Message,New American Standard Bible,New International Version,Young's Literal Translation and the New Living Translation...

Who was Cush?

Genesis 10:6:And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.

Cush was a son of Ham.

Were Cush or Ham,Ethiopians?
 
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Was Romulus a Roman? The name of the people and of the area post-dates the founder. Cush was the name which the early Hebrews gave to the area which they understood to have been settled by the descendants of Ham's son, i.e. the upper Nile region (which is certainly in Africa). It is worth noting that the Septuagint renders כּוּשׁית as Αιθιοπισσα, 'Ethiopian', and that an Αιθιοπις ('Ethiopian') is a 'burnt-face' (αιθω+οπς), i.e. black-faced person: the C3rd BC Hellenic Jews believed that she was both Ethiopian and black.
 
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Whom did Moses marry?Did Moses marry a black negro?

Numbers 12:1:And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

Dont know what color her skin was only that black or blackness seems to be equated with the words around Cush

Kuwsh proper locative noun, proper masculine noun Cush = "black"

Kuwshan proper locative noun Cushan "their blackness"

Kuwshiy
adjective Cushi or Ethiopian = see Cushan "their blackness"

Kuwshiyth
feminine adjective a Cushite woman

The last Moses' wife and Marian and Aaron spake against Moses in respects to her, the anger of the Lord burned against them, Mariam became white as snow becoming leprous

Numbers 12:10 and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

The skin is noted here

Jerm 13:23 Can the Ethiopian Kuwshiy change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Not the color specifically, the word meanings imply blackness, white is sorta interesting that after speaking against Moses for his wife Miriam became while as snow in his anger, I always wondered if there was something more in that (well, in contrast).
 
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Was Romulus a Roman? The name of the people and of the area post-dates the founder. Cush was the name which the early Hebrews gave to the area which they understood to have been settled by the descendants of Ham's son, i.e. the upper Nile region (which is certainly in Africa). It is worth noting that the Septuagint renders כּוּשׁית as Αιθιοπισσα, 'Ethiopian', and that an Αιθιοπις ('Ethiopian') is a 'burnt-face' (αιθω+οπς), i.e. black-faced person: the C3rd BC Hellenic Jews believed that she was both Ethiopian and black.

Whom did Moses Marry?


You are familiar with the saying, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." This is true, a little knowledge is never enough. It never gets beyond half truths which mislead people into false beliefs. This is consistently true in the field of religion, more than in all other areas. I am frequently challenged on some point by someone who has just this little half truth of knowledge. They think that they have found a fallacy in the Bible's great truth that Yahweh's people Israel are known today as the Anglo Saxon, Scandinavian and Teutonic people. Israel is, and always has been, under Yahweh's command to keep their race pure.

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One challenge I frequently get is, "Why shouldn't whites marry negroes, Moses married an Ethiopian woman?" They base this on the way Numbers 12:1 reads in the King James Bible. "And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married; for he had married an Ethiopian woman." Christianity has never labored under a greater curse than the many mistranslations in the King James Bible. Some of these mistranslations are even followed in some other translations because these errors have become traditional.
Bible scholars know that there are many thousand mistranslations in the King James Bible. The eminent scholar Robert Young, author of Young's Analytical Concordance to the Bible and of Young's Literal Translation of the Bible, says in the preface to his Literal Translation, "In the King James bible, there are scarcely two consecutive verses where there isn't some departure from the original. These variations may be counted by the tens of thousands, as admitted on all hands." When you think you have found some discrepancy in Yahweh's word, some contradiction, which can be used as the foundation for conflicting doctrines, you can never safely rely upon what you find in the English translation, until you have checked it in a good lexicon.
The best reference is the Hebrew and Greek dictionaries included in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, which is more thorough than most of the others. You will often find that defective scholarship in early translations, has become accepted as doctrine. It is continued, although the original word will not support the meaning given it in the translation.
Let's get back to Moses and his wife. In Numbers 12:1, the Hebrew does not say Ethiopian it says Cush, a descendant of Cush, or a resident of the land of Cush. Remember that Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth. Genesis 10:6 tells us the sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Phut and Canaan, Noah and his wife were both white, so their children naturally were of the same race. One of Ham's sons was Mizraim, meaning Egyptian. We know from all the Egyptian art including their marvelously fine portrait sculpture, during all the many centuries of Egypt's greatness, they were a pure white people. In fact during this time, any negro found in Egypt, other than a slave working in chains in the fields, was summarily killed on sight.
Ham's other son Cush was, without question, also white. What about the land of Cush? There were two different countries named Cush in Bible times, one was Ethiopia, lying south of the Sudan in Africa. However, there was another Cush in ancient times, it was in eastern Mesopotamia, or what at other ties was part of the Babylonian empire. These people certainly were not a black race at any time. This Cush flourished about 1500 B. C., during the time of Moses, the exodus from Egypt occurred in 1486 B. C.;. Who can we expect to find living in this Cush, on the east side of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, from what people that lived there did Moses take his wife? In the first place, note that there is absolutely nothing anywhere in the Bible which says, or even hints, that Moses was ever in Ethiopia or any place else, where he could have found a negro woman to marry.
The Bible does tell us where Moses got his wife, and who she was. Remember Moses had killed an Egyptian who was beating an Israelite. In Exodus 2:15-21 we read, "Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh and dwelt in the land of Midian; and he sat down by a well. And the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock. And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock. And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon today? And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us and watered the flock. And he said unto his daughters, Why is it that ye have left the man? Call him, that he may eat bread. And Moses was content to dwell with the man: and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter."
We know positively from this, that Moses married the daughter of the priest of Midian. His name Reuel means, friend of God, it is given in the variant form of Raguel in one or two places. Sometimes he called Jethro. Jethro is the Hebrew word Yithro and means his excellency, this is a title of respect, not a name. Who were the Midianites, from whom Moses got a wife?
In Genesis 25:1-2 the Bible tells us that after the death of his wife Sarah, "Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bore him Zimram, and Jokshan, and told by Yahweh that his son Isaac, not through any of his other sons, would fulfill the great promises through his descendants. Therefore he gave his inheritance only to Isaac, but he loved his other sons also and dealt fairly with them. Genesis 25:6 tells us, "But unto the sons of the concubines which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward into the east country." Logically, he would want them to move more than just a few miles away, as the whole idea was to send them far enough away that they would not be neighbors of Isaac, and perhaps quarrelling with him over the inheritance.
The next place of any importance to which they could go was Cush. Cush was in the valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, the same country which at other times was part of the important Babylonian empire. So Midian and his descendants became Cushites, people living in the kingdom of Cush. Remember though, that by race they were descendants of Abraham, closely related to Isaac and his descendants the Israelites. However, they remained a separate nation and never became part of Israel. Since this is the only wife the Bible tells us Moses had, it is clear she was a Midianite, whose family lived in Cush in the Tigris and Euphrates valleys.
This is where Moses would logically have found his wife. Moses fled for his life because the Pharaoh of Egypt wanted to kill him. Moses could not have gone to just some tiny neighboring kingdom to stay. A neighboring kingdom would not have dared to give Moses shelter, but would have turned him over to Pharaoh as soon as the Egyptians learned he was there and made a demand for him. Therefore, Moses fled a safe distance, to a land where the people did not live in fear of the powerful Egyptian empire. He went to Cush, among whose people were the Midianites.
We may be certain that Moses never married a negro. Remember that he was brought up in Pharaoh's palace as the adopted son of Pharaoh's daughter. He was educated as an Egyptian of the royal family. The Egyptians considered the negroes as merely wild animals, to be killed on sight. The son of royalty would not take a wife from the negro Cush in Africa.
It was while Moses was guarding the flocks of his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, that Yahweh appeared to him in the burning bush. This was when Moses was commissioned by Yahweh to go to Egypt, and set Yahweh's people Israel free. When Moses returned to his own people, he taught them their proud heritage as Yahweh's people Israel. He also taught them that they must keep their race pure. His brother Aaron and his sister Miriam taunted Moses about his marriage outside the strictly limited group of Israel. It is true that he had married a woman who was not an Israelite. However, she was not only a white woman, but a descendant of Abraham, a close relative of the Israelites.
So this matter of the wife of Moses can't be used as a justification for race mixing, Moses did not marry outside the white race, just outside his nation. Mongrelization is equally a sin against both races. Yahweh had His own purposes in mind when He made the different races. Each was made suited to the purpose Yahweh had planned for it. To lose that suitability by mixing it with another race is to defy Yahweh, the results of that are always bad.
 
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Dont know what color her skin was only that black or blackness seems to be equated with the words around Cush

Kuwsh proper locative noun, proper masculine noun Cush = "black"

Kuwshan proper locative noun Cushan "their blackness"

Kuwshiy
adjective Cushi or Ethiopian = see Cushan "their blackness"

Kuwshiyth
feminine adjective a Cushite woman

The last Moses' wife and Marian and Aaron spake against Moses in respects to her, the anger of the Lord burned against them, Mariam became white as snow becoming leprous

Numbers 12:10 and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

The skin is noted here

Jerm 13:23 Can the Ethiopian Kuwshiy change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Not the color specifically, the word meanings imply blackness, white is sorta interesting that after speaking against Moses for his wife Miriam became while as snow in his anger, I always wondered if there was something more in that (well, in contrast).

So are you saying Cush was black?

Too many people try to connect modern terms with old terms....

Are we to say modern Ethiopia is the same as Old Ethiopia?

Cush was a son of Ham,so why would one of Ham's sons be black?

Skin color?

Lamentations 4:7:Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Ruddy in Strong's Hebrew is...

119 'adam aw-dam' to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:--be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).

Numbers 6:2:Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:

Judges 16:17:That he told her all his heart, and said unto her, There hath not come a razor upon mine head; for I have been a Nazarite unto God from my mother's womb: if I be shaven, then my strength will go from me, and I shall become weak, and be like any other man.

Genesis 49:25-26:
26The God of thy father shall be thy helper, and the Almighty shall bless thee with the blessings of heaven above, with the blessings of the deep that lieth be- neath, with the blessings of the breasts and of the womb.
26The blessings of thy father are strengthened with the blessings of his fathers: until the desire of the everlasting hills should come; may they be upon the head of Joseph, and upon the crown of the Nazarite among his brethren. - Douay Rheims
 
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So are you saying Cush was black?

Too many people try to connect modern terms with old terms....

Are we to say modern Ethiopia is the same as Old Ethiopia?

Cush was a son of Ham,so why would one of Ham's sons be black?

Skin color?

Lamentations 4:7:Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Ruddy in Strong's Hebrew is...

119 'adam aw-dam' to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:--be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).

Numbers 6:2:Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:

Judges 16:17:That he told her all his heart, and said unto her, There hath not come a razor upon mine head; for I have been a Nazarite unto God from my mother's womb: if I be shaven, then my strength will go from me, and I shall become weak, and be like any other man.

Genesis 49:25-26:
26The God of thy father shall be thy helper, and the Almighty shall bless thee with the blessings of heaven above, with the blessings of the deep that lieth be- neath, with the blessings of the breasts and of the womb.
26The blessings of thy father are strengthened with the blessings of his fathers: until the desire of the everlasting hills should come; may they be upon the head of Joseph, and upon the crown of the Nazarite among his brethren. - Douay Rheims

No I said in my first sentence I didnt know, I just posted from strongs
 
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Somebody give the book, chapter, and verse where it states that God said not to marry outside of your color? He said not to marry an unbeliever. And even that the Jews went against several times. Ruth was not a Jew when she was first married, converted later. And what makes anyone think that Adam and Eve were not created with the genetic code for fathering all of the races??? The bible says that the language was changed at the tower of Babel--what makes anyone think that the different races didn't allready exist and that God seperated the races by language then? And then because of being isolated into groups, the differences became more apparent through time. Ethiopian, in biblical times, was black--and it doesn't matter what any racist thinks otherwise. Moses married an Ethiopian, beautiful black woman. The Ethipian was a mix of Arab and negro. They are still a beautiful race--seen Iman lately??---Still gorgeous. If we are going to speculate, this is just a good a speculation as any.

The phrase " each according to their kind" was said by God the the animals at creation. As for man, he only made one "kind"--human.
 
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Somebody give the book, chapter, and verse where it states that God said not to marry outside of your color? He said not to marry an unbeliever. And even that the Jews went against several times. Ruth was not a Jew when she was first married, converted later. And what makes anyone think that Adam and Eve were not created with the genetic code for fathering all of the races??? The bible says that the language was changed at the tower of Babel--what makes anyone think that the different races didn't allready exist and that God seperated the races by language then? And then because of being isolated into groups, the differences became more apparent through time. Ethiopian, in biblical times, was black--and it doesn't matter what any racist thinks otherwise. Moses married an Ethiopian, beautiful black woman. The Ethipian was a mix of Arab and negro. They are still a beautiful race--seen Iman lately??---Still gorgeous. If we are going to speculate, this is just a good a speculation as any.

The phrase " each according to their kind" was said by God the the animals at creation. As for man, he only made one "kind"--human.

Are you connecting Israel with Jews?

The first time ''Jews'' is mentioned is 2 Kings 16:6...

And even then Israel is making war with the Jews,so how can you equate Jews with Israel or Ruth with Jew?

2 Kings 16:5-6:
5Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not overcome him.
6At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.


How can you equate Jew/s with Israel when Israel was taken into Assyrian captivity?


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As for the Ethiopian wife...




Here is a question/s for you,if Moses married an Ethiopian woman,then why was Israel not allowed to intermarry with anyone?(Deuteronomy 7:3)
Surely God would have let Moses send her away,like in Ezra?
Wouldn't Moses have committed a sin by been with a ''strange wive''?
Read Ezra 10:2,Ezra 9:1-.
Wouldn't Moses have.......

''so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands''


Why would Moses,who led them out of Egypt be allowed to do what Israel was forbidden to do?
Do you have answers to that?




Israel was not allowed to mix with Midian,and they were related to Abraham,Moab was related to Lot,even the Canaanites were related to Ham,so are you saying God would give the OK to mix with a black skinned Ethiopian African?(Who would surely have been a strange wife)


Are we to say God let Moses mix with a black skinned Ethiopian African but forbid Israel to mix with anyone?


Do you have answers to these??
 
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He married Zipporah, daughter of the High priest of the Midianites(Exodus 2:15-22), they were from Abraham's line (Genesis 25:1-4) and so most likely were of the same faith. Whether she is the same as the woman that Miriam and Aaron speak against in Numbers 12 is unclear, but there's more information here: Zipporah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Soooo----where's the book, chapter verse that states not to marry a person of another color????????-----And yes, Moses was married to Zipporah, one of 7 daughters of Jethro, the priest of Median. And as yet God had not told the "Hebrews" all the do's and dont's that went with being the chosen people.---God gave those to Moses after he had taken the "Hebrews" out of Egypt by which time Moses and Zipporah had been married for about 40 years!!-- Moses was 40 when he left Egypt, he spent 40 years as a shepherd and he married Zipporah pretty soon after getting there, and he was 80 when God called him to deliver His people out of Egypt and then he spent another 40 years in the dessert with them and died at 120.

Exodus 4:18-20--read it. He, Moses, asks Jethro's permision to go back to Egypt, Jethro says yes, and Moses packs up the wife and kiddies--no other wife is mentioned besides and Zipporah and if he wasn't still married to her Moses would not be asking Jethro permision to go. That still makes Jethro a Median priest, Ethiopian, and his daughter an Ethiopian--black. Live with it. Didn't seem to bother God or anybody else but Miriam and Aaron, and you.
 
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I believe the Ethiopian woman was a forshadow of the gentiles being included in salvation.
The first gentile saved was the Ethiopian eunich.Phillip went to Samaria before Peter went to the Italian.
Just wondering what the "Greek" translation of Ethiopian is, just for grins.
 
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Soooo----where's the book, chapter verse that states not to marry a person of another color????????-----And yes, Moses was married to Zipporah, one of 7 daughters of Jethro, the priest of Median. And as yet God had not told the "Hebrews" all the do's and dont's that went with being the chosen people.---God gave those to Moses after he had taken the "Hebrews" out of Egypt by which time Moses and Zipporah had been married for about 40 years!!-- Moses was 40 when he left Egypt, he spent 40 years as a shepherd and he married Zipporah pretty soon after getting there, and he was 80 when God called him to deliver His people out of Egypt and then he spent another 40 years in the dessert with them and died at 120.

Exodus 4:18-20--read it. He, Moses, asks Jethro's permision to go back to Egypt, Jethro says yes, and Moses packs up the wife and kiddies--no other wife is mentioned besides and Zipporah and if he wasn't still married to her Moses would not be asking Jethro permision to go. That still makes Jethro a Median priest, Ethiopian, and his daughter an Ethiopian--black. Live with it. Didn't seem to bother God or anybody else but Miriam and Aaron, and you.

Is this to me? In which case How on earth are you reading out the idea that I don't believe in interracial marriage for the believers?
 
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