Who wrote the bible?

[Serapha]

I did not want this to become an argument, but now I have to straighten something out. I don't necessarily see the universe as the same god that you believe in. Whether I am a pantheist or not, really depends on the definition of god. I do know that I believe that no one and nothing can break the laws of the universe. So in a way, the laws of the universe are like a god, since they are all powereful.

I think I can be an agnostic pantheist. I do not believe in pantheism 100 percent; I accept the fact that other beliefs could be right, and that it cannot be proved who is right. I just think pantheism is the best idea.

Hi there!




This forum was designed for "seekers" to ask questions about Christianity.

I have some questions about the bible. I was just wondering who actually wrote the bible?

You have been provided with several listings of authors which have been determined from internal and external reasonings.

I know that "god" didn't sit down and write in it, but who did, and who found out (or made up?) the stuff that's in it?

Joseph Free and Howard Vos record an accurate statement concerning the verbal inspiration of The Holy Bible in their book, "Archaeology and Bible History," Revised, 1992, Zondervan.





"Bible believers hold that this record of God's revelation is not only vital for all humankind but is accurate in all respects. We also hold that the Bible writers exercised their own personality, used their own vocabulary, and drew on their own memories, intuitions, and judgments and that at the same time they were prevented from making errors and were so guided by God that they expressed exactly what God wished to make known. This guidance was not so vague that it assured merely the general idea or concept that God wished to convey, but rather it extended even to the choice of words when it would be essential to convey his message. The foregoing description sets forth my view of "verbal inspiration," namely that God guided even to the choice of words when necessary."

My parents said that people found some papers from a long time ago (the people who found them were also from a long time ago), and sort of put them together into one story.

Perhaps you would be interested in reading about the Dead Sea Scrolls? Or possibly do some manuscript studies on the New Testament?

I never really hear much about where the bible or the koran etc came from. I just hear people saying it's true and if you don't believe it and follow it you'll go to "hell."

It might behoove you to "read up" on canonization.... the requirements for admission to the canon and the reasons why books were not accepted for canonization.


http://www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=689


~serapha~

 

[Isaiah 26:3]

not just one person wrote the bible, many men contributed in writing the bible.

 

[heron]

Something else to watch out for...pantheism and paganism are "cool" these days. Another decade, something else will be in style. You're talking about your heart, which is a valuable treasure.

I heard something interesting recently...the New Testament was consolidated much later than we think it was. Christians were passing around all the letters and accounts, and finally the church leaders decided they needed to pull it all together and weed out the ones that weren't quite right...so representatives met to canonize the New Testament. There are still writings out there that weren't quite approved.

Extra OT-times writings found from the dead sea scrolls http://www.webcom.com/~gnosis/library/scroll.htm
would be interesting to see, not so much as religious texts, but historical information and different viewpoints. The Bible is still the Bible.

 

[White Rabbit]

The Books of the Bible were written by authors under direction from the Holy Spirit. The New Testament was canonized in the first Ecumenical Council. Before the New Testament was canonized, Church Members relied on Apostolic Oral Traditions. Hope that helps.

 

[aaron91]

Okay, first I'll introduce myself because I don't think anyone here knows me. I'm 14, I'm an agnostic pantheist (I don't think it can be proved whether there is a god or not, but I think pantheism is the best idea), and I was raised a Christian. Our family used to go to and Episcipal (sorry about the spelling) church about every other Sunday, but then we moved and got really busy and haven't had time to go to church. Plus we haven't found a good one. My family doesn't know yet that I'm an agnostic pantheist. I plan on telling them when they bring up confirmation. Or if a good time comes I'll tell them.

I have some questions about the bible. I was just wondering who actually wrote the bible? I know that "god" didn't sit down and write in it, but who did, and who found out (or made up?) the stuff that's in it? My parents said that people found some papers from a long time ago (the people who found them were also from a long time ago), and sort of put them together into one story. I never really hear much about where the bible or the koran etc came from. I just hear people saying it's true and if you don't believe it and follow it you'll go to "hell." When you reply, please tell me exactly what religion you are, because I don't know what the different looking crosses mean under people's names. All I know is that if it's a cross, you're some type of Christian. Thanks!

First of all, I think that if you have already chose what your gonna be and it is not the true way to Christ then your life will be bad. When we accept Christ into our lives and repent, we are guaranteed, GUARANTEED salvation. No matter how much you sin, if you have accepted God as your Lord and Saviour, and you repent, then you are a Christian and your going to heaven. Why not be a Christian, you have so much to lose if you aren't.

God has been proven to exist, he has performed miracles and he has created all of humanity. My question is, if there is no God, who created Earth, you get my drift? God created Earth, Mankind, and performed miracles, and he inspired many prophets to write the Holy Bible, this is our evidence that God indeed exists.

I'm 13, and I've accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. I have so much sympathy for those that do not accept Christ and become a Christian because without Christ, you're soul is damned.

Now let's get to the Bible, the Bible was written and compiled by many men and prophets over a period of about 25oo years who were inspired by God to spread his Word and message. These prophets and disciples included: Paul, Micah, Nahum, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel. All of these prophets of Christianity wrote parts of the Holy Bible.

Hope these comments will help you in some way or another!
P.S. I'm of the Pentecostal Denomination of Christianity!

 

[heron]

Someone036, are you still there? We've really preached back.
You speak of the laws of the universe. Tell me more.

 

[CPman2004]

How could Moses write the Torah if his death is described in it?

There is some discussion rather or not Joshua wrote the last parts where Moses is blessing the peoples and his death. Since Joshua was Moses's right hand man, that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[heron]

Scribes were also common in certain eras...writing was a slower process with clay tablets and papyrus. Scribes documented important and historical events. I don't know that they were common in Moses' day, but would image that someone leading that many people probably had an entourage. It wouldn't bother me to find out that Moses delegated...like today's Limoges, Versace, Ford, and Martha Stewart products (she doesn't make it all?).

 

[SNPete]

hi every one ,i think that those who wrote the bible wrote it by themselves with no help of the Holy spirit .all John,matthew,luke,and Mark does not mention any holy spirit.


Since many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the events that have been fulfilled among us, just as those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning and ministers of the word have handed them down to us, I too have decided, after investigating everything accurately anew, to write it down in an orderly sequence for you, most excellent Theophilus, (Luke 1:1,2,3)

the verse is so so clear Luke wrote the bible with no contribution of the holy spirit .
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Have you read 2Timothy 3:16-17?

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."

By Scripture, Paul is saying the Old and New Testaments.

 

[SNPete]

Very well.

I wouldn't dream of worshipping anything less than the one true God. So here you are:

Read John 10:30-33 --Jesus said, I and My Father are one.”
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

See what the Jews said in reaction to Jesus saying He and the Father were one. They knew what jesus meant.

And look at what the Jews said in Luke 5:20-25--When Jesus saw their faith, He said to him, “Man, your sins are forgiven you.” And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the man who was paralyzed, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” Immediately he rose up before them, took up what he had been lying on, and departed to his own house, glorifying God.

The jews were correct that only God can forgive sins.

We have scriptures that say Jesus is God such as John 1:1--In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And then John 1:14-- And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. (bear in mind that God can be in two or more places at once.

Phil 2:5-8 says: Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.

1Tim 3:16 says: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.

There are a number of scriptures that state the same attribute for God and Jesus. Jesus and God cannot both posses these attributes, unless they are one and the same.

Compare what is said about God and Jesus:

As Creator of all things:
God: Genesis 1:1
Jesus: Colossians 1:16

As Savior
God: Isaiah 43:11
Jesus: Titus 3:6

The Alpha and Omega:
God: Revelation 21:6
Jesus: Revelation 22:13

The First and the Last:
God: Isaiah 44:6
Jesus: Revelation 1:17 & 2:8

Every Knee Shall Bow to me:

God: Isaiah 45:23
Jesus: Philippians 2:10-11

Quotes from the New King James Bible.


Also if one regards Jesus as a prophet then we must accept what he says as true. So when He says something we must say it must be true. I would suggest reading the Book of John.

 

[ebia]

Okay, first I'll introduce myself because I don't think anyone here knows me. I'm 14, I'm an agnostic pantheist (I don't think it can be proved whether there is a god or not, but I think pantheism is the best idea), and I was raised a Christian. Our family used to go to and Episcipal (sorry about the spelling) church about every other Sunday, but then we moved and got really busy and haven't had time to go to church. Plus we haven't found a good one. My family doesn't know yet that I'm an agnostic pantheist. I plan on telling them when they bring up confirmation. Or if a good time comes I'll tell them.

I have some questions about the bible. I was just wondering who actually wrote the bible? I know that "god" didn't sit down and write in it, but who did, and who found out (or made up?) the stuff that's in it? My parents said that people found some papers from a long time ago (the people who found them were also from a long time ago), and sort of put them together into one story. I never really hear much about where the bible or the koran etc came from. I just hear people saying it's true and if you don't believe it and follow it you'll go to "hell." When you reply, please tell me exactly what religion you are, because I don't know what the different looking crosses mean under people's names. All I know is that if it's a cross, you're some type of Christian. Thanks!

For the most part we dont know. The Old Testament was written over a very long period by various people of the nation of Israel and collected together as their inspired scriptures.

As for the NT
Matthew - traditionally credited to the apostle Matthew, but we don't really have much evidence to support that.
Mark - traditionally credited to Mark, who wrote down Peter's accounts, possible around the time of Peter's death.
Luke - A gentile convert who gathered oral and/or written accounts of Jesus life, probably mostly from the Apostles, perhaps from Mary, etc, and pieced them together.
John - Traditionally credited to the apostle John. Possibly written by a group of people including John, John's associations with it are very strong.
Acts - really volume II of Luke, dealing with the life of the early church.

Romans, Corinithians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philipians, Colossians, Thesselonians, Timothy, Titus, Philemon: all supposedly written by Paul, but the authorship of some of the later ones is a bit doubtful.

Hebrews: unknown.

James: the brother of Jesus and leader of the church in Jerusalem.

1 & 2 Peter: Suppposedly written by Peter, but possibly rather latter and by someone else writing in Peter's name.

1, 2, 3 John: Traditionally attributed to the apostle John (same as the gospel).

Jude:

Revelations: Traditionally attributed to the apostle John (same as the gospel).

All inspired by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Godslilgurlalways]

"The Bible was written by men through inspiration of the Holy Spirit. What makes the Bible unique to other religious texts are all the fulfilled prophecies (hundreds of them!)"