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I cannot endorse horrible personal flames. Calling people ignorant and mentally insane? Not ignorant against a particular subject either....just ignorant.
Come on, I won't pretend for a second that is something we should have on here, and I know the mods won't either. And this is EXACTLY why we need mods.
could some one tell me where I said that in the forumI think this is the charge Ice.
I'm trying to figure out where Trust read you saying this, but I can't seem to find it.
you are a fool. I have read the book it does not say what you say it does. I went to 2 different colleges and lived at another one and never saw that. Granted there are problem on the SDA campuses, but that is not one. you have never attended a campus you speak out of ignorance
http://www.christianforums.com/t5841766-seventh-day-adventists-icedragon101-08-04-2007.html
Ithat is not TRUE. first of all let us get our attitude in the right place. I contacted the top 200 SDA's people in the fourm. they were the most active on CF. I first sent out a pm asking them to vote to keep the progressive sub forum. It did not work I think we got 3 votes. Then I sent out another PM asking for people to vote for all 4 forums. That is when the votes started coming in. I make no apologies for asking for votes. You do owe me an apology for saying that I told them to vote. I asked not toldce, you sent out a PM asking people to come vote on a poll (and telling them how you'd like them to vote) so people that haven't ever cared about this forum, or haven't cared in years, show up.
What I discovered is that there are more SDA's CF then are in SDA subforum the top 2 posters are not regulars here. one theme that became clear is that we would have more traffic, but the fighting is driving people away. that is why I stay away.
there was no after math. That is made up. If there was it was not by me. any talk of splitting the forum was made by a 15 year old child. it is not my fault that you listened to him. He had everyone for 5 days going at each other . I saw that reason would not work so I took a break for a while and backed off until it calmed down.Then you basically leave and leave us to deal with the aftermath of that.
That isn't the big issue at hand.
No Trust you have it wrong. It was DL that attacked Me. I never said DL was crazy. I said John Osborne who 15 years earlier said the same thing was called crazy, so he should not expect to be seen in a different light when he says the same thing.YOU voted for "stricter rules against personal flames" and then you compared OntheDL of being crazy like such and such.
again you are shifting the burden of responsiblity. it is not for me to have to dog his flames. As far a the flame goes it was reported to the Ecumenical team and they said they did not see any flames #2. That people in the forum were "THIN Skinned" so I don't know what you are complaining about. I think you are personally looking for excuses. you are not representing me fairly.If you feel he flamed you, then it was up to you to handle that accordingly, not fight back with flames.
http://www.christianforums.com/t5841766
Ithen with the exeption of Tall and the country doc, you cannot support any one else in this forum. you put on me a responsiblity that you don't put on other you support. The only common denominator is that I am not like you.. you are afraid that I willdon't know how I can endorse someone as a mod that obviously doesn't know how to bridle their own emotions and not resort to flaming.
I told him the "split" poll was "invalid" that is all. I will not apoligize to him. It was out of place for him to start a poll that effect the function of the forum. you should have been adult enough to see that and put a stop to it Espically since we had just voted to have 4 sub-forums. Where is you righteous indignation over that injustice? It was he who was caused 5 days of fighting, he disrespected the will of the forum not I.I watched you totally malign a 15-year-old CHILD about starting a poll, and I have yet to see you apologize to him (if you did, please point me to the post and I will apologize).
How am I to respond to this. you tell me that while the forum is in chaoas and people are attacking me that I can't defend myself? Then when the post is reported, they say they see no flaming in it. I think you are just overreacting.I'd like to see people get voted in that face the flames, and respond in a Christlike manner instead of flaming themselves.
http://www.christianforums.com/t5841766
then you should not be allowed to voted, because you are guilty of the same crime. This tread is one big flame. one accusation after anotherI can't trust someone to enforce the no flames rule that resorts to flames themselves. Period.
.It was DL that attacked me. for I will not apoligize for a wrong I did not commit. As far as mankin goes I mearly told him that the poll was not valid. wchich it was( see above) That is all.Therefore, I cannot endorse you as a mod and unless I see you apologize to OntheDL and Mankin, I will not vote for you as a mod either
You have made an accusation and they have been shown to be false.
OntheDL isn't asking me to make him a mod, IceDragon is.
you obviously are not reading the same thread I am. It was DL that you need to be talking to. DL is the problem, but because I am a progressive i am to blame. you want me to play a mayter. It was DL who tried to insult me by implying I was Tall73 sidekick, by calling me "robin" implying I was second fiddle to "Batman"If IceDragon cannot read a comment he disagrees with without resorting to a flame,
I will not vote for him. Furthermore, what doesI never said he was a fool. I said some one else was called a fool for saying the same things as DL, so he should be more careful or he will be labled the same thing.scripture say about calling a brother a fool?
I do not. you don't even have the decency PM. Please sight an exampleHe flies off the handle, and he encourages fighting. I can't endorse that
. I don't need your explanation of it Night, I need Ice's...and if he doesn't care to give me one, which is his right, I stand firm on how I'll vote.This is you flying off the handle. You are making a demand that you have no right to make. Mankin told you I did him wrong. DId he show you? NoMankin deserves an apology, and so does OntheDL
see previous post. pride. I think both of those people are suffering from Pride.If he can't swallow his own pride to do that, then so be it.
IceDragon101 said:what are you doing Mankin?
Are you trying to split the forum? The forum is not going to split.
Mankin you are being devisive I think we need to ban Mankin from polling. Nothing personal. i am sharing your views, but you are not mature enough
you are 15 years old and a child you are not old enough to claim the type of authority or respect that you want.
Sit down and be quite
IceDragon101 said:wow Tall73 you came out swinging? way to knock him around.
for that quote I will apoligize to DLAnd here's some more:
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=37254090#post37254090
In post #91 Icedragon says:
IceDragon101 said:I never said he was a fool. I said some one else was called a fool for saying the same things as DL, so he should be more careful or he will be labled the same thing.
IceDragon101 said:you are a fool. I have read the book it does not say what you say it does. I went to 2 different colleges and lived at another one and never saw that. Granted there are problem on the SDA campuses, but that is not one. you have never attended a campus you speak out of ignorance
Mods are not required to be here 24/7. The old minimum time commitment for staff members was at least four hours per week, but most mods spend way more time moderating than that. However, your real life has to come first. You can take time off on Sabbath.
If the mods are appointed to cover the whole SDA forum, then, yes, they can mod in the sub-forums as well. When you are closing a thread or posting a mod hat or something like that, it doesn't matter what your theological beliefs are. You're not there to debate.
Things come up, and sometimes people need to take time off. That's understandable. On the other hand, I would have some reservations about your going into this knowing from the beginning that your time will be extremely limited. The reality is that moderating is very time-consuming if you are going to be active in it. It's a hard and often thankless and discouraging job. If you have a lot of stress in your personal life, it may not be wise for you to add to that burden. It also takes time away from simply discussing things and fellowshipping with people, which may be another factor to consider.
I think you would be a good mod, Sarah, and I would be happy to vote for you if you decide to accept the nomination. I just want to be sure that you have some idea of what you would be getting yourself into. It's not a decision to take lightly, and I admire your taking the time to pray about it and not rushing into a decision.
I don't need your explanation of it Night, I need Ice's...and if he doesn't care to give me one, which is his right, I stand firm on how I'll vote.
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