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Matthew 7

Judging Others

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. 6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. Ask, Seek, Knock

7"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 5 : 17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5 : 6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
 

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Matthew 7

Judging Others

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. 6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. Ask, Seek, Knock

7"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 5 : 17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5 : 6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.

If you're alive and thinking, which you have to be to be alive, you better be righteously judging ALL THINGS.

You can't make a decision without judging.
 
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Dear Zaac

Judging does not mean let things go. Obviously, if you know a person is a serial killer, you'll be cautious. That's judging but it's rightful. Does this mean you automatically assume he's out to get you and reject him? I would certainly hope not. Because all sin is equal to God, you can't condemn him like that.

Likewise with homosexuality, except for the fact there isn't much to fear about homosexuality (unless you're afraid of being hit on). You should not judge homosexuals like this: "Since you're homosexual, you're going to hell. Receive Christ." It should be more like this: "You know God loves you? You should let Him come into your life". We do not have a right to even USE the words "condemnation" or "damned" or anything like that. Let alone use them AGAINST people. Because we are subjected to the same punishment.
 
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Dear Zaac

Judging does not mean let things go. Obviously, if you know a person is a serial killer, you'll be cautious. That's judging but it's rightful. Does this mean you automatically assume he's out to get you and reject him? I would certainly hope not. Because all sin is equal to God, you can't condemn him like that.

Likewise with homosexuality, except for the fact there isn't much to fear about homosexuality (unless you're afraid of being hit on). You should not judge homosexuals like this: "Since you're homosexual, you're going to hell. Receive Christ." It should be more like this: "You know God loves you? You should let Him come into your life". We do not have a right to even USE the words "condemnation" or "damned" or anything like that. Let alone use them AGAINST people. Because we are subjected to the same punishment.
Actually it should be more like this..
" God loves you and in order to recieve his grace you must repent and deny yourself."

I like how you pro-gay, tolerance pushers forget that part...we must deny ourselves and pick up our crosses.
 
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I dont see what this has to do with the forum section.
Adultery is wrong but as someone who has committed adultery in the past I dont object to people saying adultery is wrong, They arent judgeing me Jesus is my Judge 1 Cor 4;3. No as a believer I know that in Christ I am forgiven sin when I repent and there is no condemnation
Similarly if I say paedopholia is wrong, I might have paedophiles saying I am judging them, but I only want them to know Christ, know the truth repent and receive forgiveness and be free from condemnation.
Similarly if I say same-sex sex is wrong, I might have homosexuals saying I am judging them, but I only want them to know Christ, know the truth repent and receive forgiveness and be free from condemnation.

I mean as Christians we know what sin is and we know in Christ there is no condemnation... but we know it is Christ who judges us.
 
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Actually it should be more like this..
" God loves you and in order to recieve his grace you must repent and deny yourself."

I like how you pro-gay, tolerance pushers forget that part...we must deny ourselves and pick up our crosses.

Do you have a problem with me trying to be civil NewGuy? The post wasn't about how it should be explained, but presented. Your way might word as well, as long as it's not as snide as if you're trying to drop a hint. We, as sinners, how no right to tell someone THEY'RE sinning. You can spout something is sin all you want. But you can never call out another person a sinner unless you can admit that that judgement is wrong. The only level we can share God with non-Christians is in a loving and protective way. The second you start to call others on their being a sinner, you're becoming the fire. The bad ones.

If (and I know you'll bring this up out of spite) you believe it's not a sin to judge, remember that you are not God. Obviously, God is without gender (or sexuality at least) and He can't be homosexual. But judging is something particular and ultimate. Much in the same way murder and abortion cross over the line, so does judgement. God is the ultimate God. He controls everything that happens. To kill slashes the plan in half in a way no other sin can do. Likewise, so can judgement, in a way even murder can't do. Judgement, physical and mental, is like murder to the soul. Unless a person is so denying of God they don't accept it, but since I assume you can't read minds, you can't be so quick to assume who denies and who takes it VERY SERIOUSLY.

That aside, "if you don't have anything nice (or informative, or anything that adds to the discussion) to say, don't say anything at all" does apply here.
 
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Dear Zaac

Judging does not mean let things go. Obviously, if you know a person is a serial killer, you'll be cautious. That's judging but it's rightful. Does this mean you automatically assume he's out to get you and reject him? I would certainly hope not. Because all sin is equal to God, you can't condemn him like that.

Likewise with homosexuality, except for the fact there isn't much to fear about homosexuality (unless you're afraid of being hit on). You should not judge homosexuals like this: "Since you're homosexual, you're going to hell. Receive Christ." It should be more like this: "You know God loves you? You should let Him come into your life". We do not have a right to even USE the words "condemnation" or "damned" or anything like that. Let alone use them AGAINST people. Because we are subjected to the same punishment.

I understand what you're saying. Simply put, in accordance with God's Word, there is righteous judgment and there is unrighteous judgment.

Ultimate judgment rests with God, but as the Bible says 15The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16"For who has known the mind of the Lord
that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Cor. 2:15-16

It would be impossible to make ANY decision without judging. But it is judging acts and doing so righteously.
 
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Het everybody

Judge your own lives and not the lives of others.

Simple rule - Jesus made it up - let's follow it.

:wave:

And this is why we must use the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word. Yes, you are to judge your own lives and actions. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17

“All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 2 Timothy 4:2

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train or encourage.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Titus 2:15

“These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.”

If you are not righteously judging, how do you know to rebuke?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Ephesians 5:11

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

How can you expose them if you have not righteously judged what they are?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”

So, believers should judge all matters and issues.

The Bible says in 1 John 4:1

“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Believers should test the spirits behind a person’s action to see if the action brings glory to God.

Unless you are making a righteous judgment, you can't test the spirits.

The Bible says in Ezekiel 3:18-21

18 When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

20 "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself."


If you're not using the truth of God's Word to righteously judge right from wrong, how are you going to know to point out anything to your neighbor?


This "you judge your own life" thing is why the Church is in disarray. God has called us to be accountable of each other.

And He has called His people to use the truth of His Word in juxtaposition to the sin in people's lives to make a righteous judgment and show them why they are in need of a Savior.

And unless God's people are making righteous judgments about all things, it would be impossible to show a sinner why his sin is wrong and why he needs Jesus in order to cover that sin.

If no one ever judged the sin in another person's life, there would never be any confession and repentance of sin.

And so I say again, your way authors confusion and is not of God.

God has called His people to righteously judge ALL things, not just the things in our lives.
 
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And this is why we must use the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word. Yes, you are to judge your own lives and actions. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17

“All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 2 Timothy 4:2

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train or encourage.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Titus 2:15

“These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.”

If you are not righteously judging, how do you know to rebuke?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Ephesians 5:11

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

How can you expose them if you have not righteously judged what they are?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”

So, believers should judge all matters and issues.

The Bible says in 1 John 4:1

“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Believers should test the spirits behind a person’s action to see if the action brings glory to God.

Unless you are making a righteous judgment, you can't test the spirits.

The Bible says in Ezekiel 3:18-21

18 When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

20 "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself."


If you're not using the truth of God's Word to righteously judge right from wrong, how are you going to know to point out anything to your neighbor?


This "you judge your own life" thing is why the Church is in disarray. God has called us to be accountable of each other.

And He has called His people to use the truth of His Word in juxtaposition to the sin in people's lives to make a righteous judgment and show them why they are in need of a Savior.

And unless God's people are making righteous judgments about all things, it would be impossible to show a sinner why his sin is wrong and why he needs Jesus in order to cover that sin.

If no one ever judged the sin in another person's life, there would never be any confession and repentance of sin.

And so I say again, your way authors confusion and is not of God.

God has called His people to righteously judge ALL things, not just the things in our lives.
I notice you did not quote Jesus.

Jesus is not a liar.

Make a righteous judgment on your own life;
leave the judging of others to God.

Otherwise you are in error.
 
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And this is why we must use the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word. Yes, you are to judge your own lives and actions. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17

“All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 2 Timothy 4:2

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train or encourage.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Titus 2:15

“These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.”

If you are not righteously judging, how do you know to rebuke?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Ephesians 5:11

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

How can you expose them if you have not righteously judged what they are?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”

So, believers should judge all matters and issues.

The Bible says in 1 John 4:1

“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Believers should test the spirits behind a person’s action to see if the action brings glory to God.

Unless you are making a righteous judgment, you can't test the spirits.

The Bible says in Ezekiel 3:18-21

18 When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

20 "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself."

If you're not using the truth of God's Word to righteously judge right from wrong, how are you going to know to point out anything to your neighbor?


This "you judge your own life" thing is why the Church is in disarray. God has called us to be accountable of each other.

And He has called His people to use the truth of His Word in juxtaposition to the sin in people's lives to make a righteous judgment and show them why they are in need of a Savior.

And unless God's people are making righteous judgments about all things, it would be impossible to show a sinner why his sin is wrong and why he needs Jesus in order to cover that sin.

If no one ever judged the sin in another person's life, there would never be any confession and repentance of sin.

And so I say again, your way authors confusion and is not of God.

God has called His people to righteously judge ALL things, not just the things in our lives.


Amen, brother!

 
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I notice you did not quote Jesus.

:confused: Jesus Christ IS the Living Endowment of the Written Word of God.

Why would I have to quote the words in red if Jesus Christ is ALL of the Word?

This is what I mean when I say folks open the door for confusion. You make it sound like God's Word is of no use and validity if it's not a direct quote from the life of Jesus Christ.

Your line of thinking is not of God.

But if it moves you to be corrected by the Words in red that are attributed to Jesus Christ while He walked this earth as a man, let me give you some.

The Bible says

3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. Matthew 7:3-4

It says take the plank from your own eye and THEN you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Jesus Christ CLEARLY gives the condition by which you MAY righteously judge.


Make a righteous judgment on your own life;
leave the judging of others to God.

Otherwise you are in error.

Back it up with Scripture because as it stands what you are saying is what is at error.

If we are to leave the judging of others actions merely to God, can a parent righteously judge the actions of their children and correct them?

Can the pastor righteously judge the actions of his congregation and correct them?

It would be,erstwhile, foolish and purposefully disobedient to sit back and look at the many times that God's Word speaks to judging and how it is to be done, and turn around and make the untrue comment that we are to only judge our actions.

There is an entire book of the Bible called JUDGES for goodness sake. What do you think God put those judges in place to do? :scratch:
 
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Zaac said:
"And so I say again, your way authors confusion and is not of God.

God has called His people to righteously judge ALL things, not just the things in our lives."

And I reply:
Your way undermines God's sole authority as judge.

And using the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word I reply that there is NOTHING in God's Word that tells you that God is the sole and only judge. He is the ULTIMATE Judge of our hearts, but He has made it clear that the Saints are capable of righteously judging.

On the contrary to what you say, His Word shows just the opposite.

1If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 1 Corinthians 6:1-3

You see this is how I know when folks are stubbornly looking for excuses to justify their wrong. God's Word presents no question that He expects us to righteously judge, yet because you and those who will do wrong don't want anyone to say anything about your blatantly disobedient sin, you come up with these silly defenses about folks not being able to judge your actions.

You have YET to present any Scripture that says we are not to judge and that aligns itself with the rest of God's Word.
 
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You are attempting to pronounce judgment over my own heart and life, and the hearts & lives of numerous others on this board.

I reject your notion that God has called you to judge others: You cannot make a righteous judgment because you have not yet pulled the plank out of your own eye. Had you done so you would have used a lot more humility and a lot less hubris.

Puffed up - that is how you come across.
 
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We ARE supposed to rebuke our Christian brothers if they are living in sin though.

19 My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.
James 5:19-20

5 Better is open rebuke than hidden love. 6 Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.
Proverbs 27:5-6


There is a BIG difference between correcting and rebuking in order to bring someone to repentance...
and casting a stone, judging them, and wanting them to be punished for their sin.
 
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Dear Chailce_Thunder,
Het everybody

Judge your own lives and not the lives of others.

Simple rule - Jesus made it up - let's follow it.

:wave:

This is also telling others what they should and shouldnt do. The issue is Jesus NT teaching shows us that sex outside marriage and same-sex sex specifically is sin, and that we should not judge others. However we are not judging others when we speak of the two above sins, others may feel judged if they arent Christians, but as Christians we know there is no condmenation in Christ, in Christ we are a new creation, our old self is dead.
Can I sugesst that you apply yoru advice to yoruself too, judge your own life and stop promoting sin.
 
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And those who have an ear to hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying say: :amen::amen::amen::amen::amen:


And this is why we must use the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word. Yes, you are to judge your own lives and actions. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17

“All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 2 Timothy 4:2

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

If we did not righteously judge, we could not use God's Word to teach, rebuke, correct and train or encourage.

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Titus 2:15

“These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.”

If you are not righteously judging, how do you know to rebuke?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in Ephesians 5:11

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

How can you expose them if you have not righteously judged what they are?

God is not a liar.

The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”

So, believers should judge all matters and issues.

The Bible says in 1 John 4:1

“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Believers should test the spirits behind a person’s action to see if the action brings glory to God.

Unless you are making a righteous judgment, you can't test the spirits.

The Bible says in Ezekiel 3:18-21

18 When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

20 "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself."


If you're not using the truth of God's Word to righteously judge right from wrong, how are you going to know to point out anything to your neighbor?


This "you judge your own life" thing is why the Church is in disarray. God has called us to be accountable of each other.

And He has called His people to use the truth of His Word in juxtaposition to the sin in people's lives to make a righteous judgment and show them why they are in need of a Savior.

And unless God's people are making righteous judgments about all things, it would be impossible to show a sinner why his sin is wrong and why he needs Jesus in order to cover that sin.

If no one ever judged the sin in another person's life, there would never be any confession and repentance of sin.

And so I say again, your way authors confusion and is not of God.

God has called His people to righteously judge ALL things, not just the things in our lives.
 
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What you speak, whether truth or lie, good or bad, is a direct indication of where your heart is. The fact that you are willing to call a "blessing", what God has said is EVIL in His sight, and profane the Scriptures and the work of the Cross of Christ in order to justify your position and serve your flesh, and show hatred and contempt for those who love the Word and the ways of the Lord, who have had to lay down any number of things to follow Him, is also evidence of where your heart is at with the Lord.
Your words indicate you know not Him whom you say you worship.

Jesus said, "....out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." Matthew 12:34b

as well as Jesus also said,
"For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks. And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" Luke 6:44-46

Your words betray you as they expose the motive of your hearts.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lustsshall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

Gwynappnudd is one of these such teachers spoken of in the above verse. Preaching to your itching ears, what you want to hear, not what the Word actually says.






You are attempting to pronounce judgment over my own heart and life, and the hearts & lives of numerous others on this board.

I reject your notion that God has called you to judge others: You cannot make a righteous judgment because you have not yet pulled the plank out of your own eye. Had you done so you would have used a lot more humility and a lot less hubris.

Puffed up - that is how you come across.
 
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Dear Chailce_Thunder,
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This is also telling others what they should and shouldnt do. The issue is Jesus NT teaching shows us that sex outside marriage and same-sex sex specifically is sin, and that we should not judge others. However we are not judging others when we speak of the two above sins, others may feel judged if they arent Christians, but as Christians we know there is no condmenation in Christ, in Christ we are a new creation, our old self is dead.
Can I sugesst that you apply yoru advice to yoruself too, judge your own life and stop promoting sin.
I do judge my own life

And I do not promote sin.

Your suggestion that I do is a LIE.
 
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