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You came here to show us that the theory of evollution [sic] is bogus. So, you convinced me. Now what?

Have I ever called anything "the theory of evolution"? No. I've not. You have not carefully read what I have written. Any time I have written the phrase, "the theory of evolution," I have surrounded it by quotation marks so as to point out that it is Darwinists who are calling their Darwinism—their nonsense and falsehood, their language game, their war against truth and logic—"the theory of evolution."

Life is changing and adapting.

That's as nonsensical and right out of a can as the previous phrase you handed me ("life diversified over time").

There are species living whch [sic] have not always been here, and there are species once here which are now extinct. What's your explanation for it?

I have no explanation for why you choose to parrot nonsense like that, which you've been conditioned to parrot, and then to ask me to explain why you choose to do that.

you convinced me

When you say someone "convinced" you of the proposition, P, what (if anything) do you mean by that? Are you saying that they caused you to believe P?
 
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What "truth" is that? You have not told us yet.









When you say someone "convinced" you of the proposition, P, what (if anything) do you mean by that? Are you saying that they caused you to believe P?
Yes, you have caused me to believe that "Darwinism" is the bunk. I want to get to the bottom line here. What do you expect to to replace it with? How do you explain the existence of the biosphere? What is your explanation for the "origin of species?"
 
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I cannot imagine anyone worshiping a word. Any word.
Alas, there are no "Darwinists" outside corporate boardrooms. And they worship money. Not words.
 
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Here's a good enough true thing about conclusions that I found, in the matter of an eyeblink, on the internet: "In argumentation, a conclusion is the proposition that follows logically from the major and minor premises in a syllogism."
That is only true of deductive logic. Science proceeds on the basis of inductive logic. Scientific propositions are confirmed by evidence, not "proven" in the manner you suggest.
 
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That is only true of deductive logic. Science proceeds on the basis of inductive logic. Scientific propositions are confirmed by evidence, not "proven" in the manner you suggest.
Which came first? gravity, or evidence of gravity?
 
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Ya ... but you don't wanna come here no more cause wez all idjits ... an that makes me feel bad.

Was you here on sum kinda intalecshul reconnaissance feeld trip or sumthing?

If we git are graids up, will you come back?
Will you also be fixing the ignorance, arrogance and indoctrination, or just the poor education which you want to pretend you got? Would it be too much to ask you to learn how to make decent coffee, too?
 
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I like how many Darwinists choose to say they "accept" this or that, eschewing the word, 'believe,' in certain contexts. Indeed, you accept what is handed out to you by those whom you mindlessly revere and call "scientists" and "science".

It represents honesty and humility about our knowledge.

I accept the facts of evolution, but I acknowledge that with more information I could be wrong.

I ask that you cease you silly lies about people you are talking to.

After handing us nonsense like this load you've just handed us, why do you Darwinists turn around and say that individuals "evolve"? Darwinists say "Fish evolved into _______." Why don't you tell us, Professor: Are fish individuals? Yes or No?

Yes. there are individual fish.

Fish is also the plural and a label for the entire group. When having a discussion it's important to understand context.


I stated the phrase "a single wolf", because it was in response to you asking why I said "a single wolf" instead of "a wolf".

Were you actually confused by my statement? Or were you attempting to create a way to distract from you inability to respond to the content of my post?


What is your point. We are talking about the process of evolution and you were confused about how a process can effect a group without effecting an individual.

You do not understand that you are not speaking about, or describing, nor explaining, nor trying to explain any process.

You are still confused.

The process is call evolution, and it functions by the frequency of inherited traits varying in a population of living things over generations.

That is your assertion, but it isn't supported by evidence.

You are mistaken:
Genetic evidence
Fossil Evidence




Yet again you are having trouble distinguishing "not perfect" from "completely useless".

You appear to be using your own definitions for words.

How do you define "evidence"?


Are you so profoundly ignorant of communication in English that you don't know that labels can be broad or specific?

A Ford Fairlane is a kind of car... so I can't define the difference between a Ford Fairlane and car.

Do you understand?

All Ford Fairlanes are cars.
Not all cars are Ford Fairlanes.

All humans are apes.
Not all apes are humans.

Do you understand now?

IOW, since by your word, "humans," you mean apes: "I can still distinguish between [apes], chimps and other apes."

See, in English, when I used the phrase "other apes" you can infer that the earlier labeled things were also apes, but I am now referring to something else, that is also an ape.

In this very sentence I demonstrated that you misunderstanding of me defining human as a word that just meant ape in general is wrong.

LOL

IOW, since by your word, "men," you mean apes: "can you tell me which are apes and which are [apes]...?"

You completely ignored the question.

You think I can't define what an ape is, but you seem to be implying that you can because it's soooo funny.

Your semantic games are not hiding that you are completely incapable of discussing the actual issue.

By your phrase, "an extinct species," do you mean an individual animal? Yes or No? See, a fossil is the remains of an individual animal.

No, when I said "an extinct species,", I meant "an extinct species,".

A fossil is the remains of an individual animal that is an example of a species.

If there are no living examples of a species then it is an extinct species.

Therefore the fossil remains of an individual animal of a species for which there are no living examples is... fossil of an extinct species.

Do you understand?


Pathetic.

You have spent no time actually discussing the actual evidence and science.
 
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This seems particularly silly:

1) they are true, and 2) I believe them. Knowing is believing truth.

How do you determine truth?
 
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Can you even show it's 'nonsense and falsehood'?
 
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Will you also be fixing the ignorance, arrogance and indoctrination, or just the poor education which you want to pretend you got?
Yu meen juss sos yuel grace are soyel agin.
 
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In the meantime, any child can -- (or should be able to) -- give you the name of our "common ancestor."
Then you should able to. Go ahead. Even if you don’t believe it, by your logic should should be able name it.
 
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Which came first? gravity, or evidence of gravity?
Gravity works at the speed of light so gravity can exist prior to it’s effect on local space time.
 
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Where'd Eve come from?

1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
What does it matter? The question had to do with common ancestry, not earliest ancestor. Eve is the mother of all living--that's what her name means.
 
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