Who is more intelligent?

[BjorkIsCool]

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law, now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school, and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.


Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways. But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

 

[jcook922]

This poll goes towards the extremes too much... What about the person who gets straight C's, is an underachiever, but puts heart and soul into his work and might not necessarily be book smart so much as street smart and wise?

 

[Washington]

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law, now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school, and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.


Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways. But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

Those aren't criteria by which intelligence is established.

 

[keith99]

Intelligence and compassion or kindness are not the same thing. Very very sloppy.

EDIT: Was what you were shoting for 'wise' as expressed by jcook922?

 

[BjorkIsCool]

This poll goes towards the extremes too much... What about the person who gets straight C's, is an underachiever, but puts heart and soul into his work and might not necessarily be book smart so much as street smart and wise?

I'd say that the better the exam grade doesnt mean the more intelligent. But i'd also say they lack intelligence and understanding because they have just gone with the system.

I would define intelligence as:
Love for fellow humans
Creativity
Orginality
True knowledge
Humbleness...

...but what do i know...

 

[billwald]

IQ is measured by a standardized test. IQ is predictive of social/economic success in our technical/business oriented society. Statistics never applies to individuals. There is always the exception to the rule.

If YOU were hiring a new employee for very routine and repetitive work, a person with a lower IQ might be a happier and more dependable employee.

If you needed someone to design airplane wings . . . Boeing has (had?) a reputation for hiring engineering graduates to do routine drafting jobs with the hope that one would turn out to be a genius wing designer or whatever. It was real hard to get fired. When work slows down came along Boeing would lay off an entire shop and then hire back the people they really wanted.

 

[Beanieboy]

I don't understand the question, exactly, like others have stated.

If you get A's, study law, and become a lawyer, work a lot, and are cold to the world, that doesn't make you unintelligent. People who are lawyers are usually require a lot of discipline and intelligence.

The second person drops out of school due to bad grades, and is good to others.

I think that the second person is doing what is most important.
I'm unsure if they are working wherever they can because they lack direction, lack motivation, try to study law, for example, when they hate law, and lawyers, but just want to make money, even if it is to help others.

The first person, however, could not go to college, and work at Terrrrget as a checkout clerrrrk, and be cold. People are usually cold because they are unhappy, have been really hurt, so they don't trust others, been given everything and have never had to learn to share or be generous, etc.

It's arguing IQ vs. EQ, and they are apples and kiwis.

 

[quatona]

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law,

This either points to high intelligence or intense industriousness.

now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

I have no idea what any of that has to do with intelligence or lack thereof.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school,

This either points to low intelligence or laziness.

and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.

I have no idea what any of that has to do with intelligence or lack thereof.

Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways.

But I won´t.
I would say you haven´t given me the required information for telling their intelligence.

But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

I understand why you like the second person better, and I might even agree. But "intelligence" does not mean "likeability", by any established meaning of the word.

 

[Autumnleaf]

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law, now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school, and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.


Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways. But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

Based on what you offer we can safely say choice 1 is at least fairly intelligent and we can't say about choice 2 because they have not put in any effort to show off their intelligence level.

 

[lawtonfogle]

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law, now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school, and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.


Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways. But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

Anyone who drops out of high school and doesn't already have a future established (so those who drop out to run a big business they have been working on don't count) are being stupid, and are unintelligent.

 

[Stinker]

Who is more intelligent?

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law, now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school, and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.


Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways. But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

It looks like you are descibing 2 different kinds of intelligence. The person who dropped out of school appears to be one who has a very high emotional I.Q. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence

 

[wanderingone]

Choice 1: A person who has always got A's in exams, who has a degree in law, now works for a law firm, has plenty of money and an easy life; this person is some what consumed by their work and is cold to the world.

Choice 2: A person who has failed all their exams, dropped out of school, and works any where they can get; this person for the love of others is always going out of their way to help others.


Sure you might say they are intelligent in different ways. But i would say choice 1 lacks intelligence and understanding - because really they have done nothing except run in a system. I would rank choice 2 far above choice 1. But of cource intelligence isnt permanent...

Neither is more intelligent in the same way or less intelligent in the same way. The person who wants to love and help others but cannot successfully create ways to improve their own knowledge and income will find themselves up against a wall at some point when they don't have the talents, knowledge or money to help. The person who is able to excel at academics and business but cannot merge their talents with social skills is also going to come up against a wall when they need others to help their businesses grow and change and the people that have to contribute to that are not people they can just boss around by having more money and power.

 

[wanderingone]

I'd say that the better the exam grade doesnt mean the more intelligent. But i'd also say they lack intelligence and understanding because they have just gone with the system.

I would define intelligence as:
Love for fellow humans
Creativity
Orginality
True knowledge
Humbleness...

...but what do i know...

For the most part you are describing traits as opposed to intelligence. I'm not sure what you define as "true knowledge"

 

[Lynden1000]

As others indicated, intelligence and likeability are not the same thing. One can be highly intelligent and a flat out jerk.

 

[B'alaam]

1st- Define "Intelligent" in a specific context. I dont think it can be done, but you might suprise me.
2nd- Choice 1 might be a person who can easily retain facts ("always got A's on their exams, who has a degree in lay"). As a good friend of mine has said "I have a high IQ, I know more facts about geology, paleontology, quantum physics, and M theory than anyone else I personally know, but I'm not *smart*. Quite frankly, Im an idiot. Retention of facts does not equate to real world intelligence. It is how you use what you know, nothing more nothing less" (paraphrased)

Additionally, "loving others" and giving to others does not necesarrily equate to "intelligence", unless you subscribe to "emotional intelligence" (which is a completely different debate)
Oh, wait, you have already personally defined "intelligence" as
Love for fellow humans
Creativity
Originality
"True" knowledge (I have NO idea what that means...are you saying that there is no such thing as an "intelligent" Young Earth Creationist?)
and
Humbleness
Humbleness? Really? I guess I just don't get your 'definition' of intelligence.
I think (correct me if Im wrong) that you are simply confusing "what you like in other people" with intelligence.

 

[trunks2k]

Insufficient information. Person B could be more intelligent, but due to bad circumstances, has ended up performing poorly in school, etc and person A could have essentially cheated all through school.

Either way, I think the question is a poor one. Whether or not you are a loving person or cold to the world has nothing at all to do with your intelligence. To me, intelligence is simply your ability to learn, retain, and use information.

 

[Exhausted]

I'd say that the better the exam grade doesnt mean the more intelligent. But i'd also say they lack intelligence and understanding because they have just gone with the system.

I would define intelligence as:
Love for fellow humans
Creativity
Orginality
True knowledge
Humbleness...

...but what do i know...

Your definition of intelligence is totally massive. And almost universally incorrect.

Love? Hardly an indicator of intelligence. Creativity (originality is basically synonymous here) is an entirely separate trait. True knowledge? As opposed to false knowledge? Wat. And again, humbleness is entirely separate here.

Your definition isn't technically wrong, because definitions can't really be wrong, but it is very unpopular, and somewhat illogical.