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Wow! What really is so shocking that ECR is accepting or defending this view. When I provided what the Bible actually stated along with EGW writings about the following:
1. Satan seat, throne or kingdom was establish somewhere Yahweh permitted before the earth was created and made. Jude 1:6,
2. Two evil foes the harlot/Gentile (papacy) and the beast/man (the eight and final or original head) at the endtime Rev 17:1, 16
3. All the angels of Satan will be release at endtime because HS will be withdrawn Joel 2:1-7; Rev 9:1-11
4. Two witnesses (the Scriptures in the 144,000 mind) also the Ark of the Covenant brought up from it hiding place by the Father at the endtime Ps. 119:105, 130; Prov. 6:23; GC 267; TM 105-6, 112-120, 510, 511
5. The image to the beast/man is made by the people of the world encouraged by the false prophet (two horned beast) who give it supposedly life and the image will be able to speak and he is the one who gives out the mark of the beast. The mark is not any Sunday Blue law and EGW did not say that it was. Rev 13:11-17, 19:19; 1BIO p. 146
6. Remnant are not SDA but some SDA along with all other people whom come out of all of the religions of the world. Dan. 1-3, 1o, 12; Rev 12:17
Now I was not treated in the same manner or even given the common courtesy that is presented here about how I came to the conclusion that I commented on interesting isn't it!
First I would like to ask where on earth do "abar" fit into this subject matter? Below are the two words used in Gen 5:24:
'ayin (H369)
to be nothing or not exist;
laqach (H3947)
to take
This word is not a part of any of the Scriptures containing Enoch, Elijah, or Moses nor is it meaning the same as to take!
abar (H5674)
alienate
Here also below is the KJ+ version with the Strong dictionary:
And Enoch (H2585) walked (H1980) with (H854) Elohim: (H430) and he was not; (H369) for (H3588) Elohim (H430) took (H3947) him. Gen 5:24
Not only did Elisha knew that Elijah was going to be taken but all the prophets in Jericho:
And the sons of the prophets that were at Jericho came to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou that Yahweh will take away thy master from thy head today? And he answered, Yea, I know it; hold ye your peace. 2Ki 2:5
I also provide the Greek word which included the whole body of Moses was taken into Heaven.
soma (G4983)
the body (as a sound whole), or the whole body
I also did not read that Peter, James, John or even Yashua was in a vision but they actually saw the real thing. This was revealed to them as did Yashua revealed His Heavenly body before to Moses, Aaron and his two sons, and the seventy elders. They ate and drink with the Son of the Most High and did not die. They did not see Him in His glory because they would not be able to take it. Ex 24:1, 2, 10
And after six days Yashua taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Then answered Peter, and said unto Yashua, Master, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. Mat 17:1-6
Now here is where I will stand with EGW 100% because she was revealed the truth through her visions. I do not agreed with EGW opinions but this is Scriptural but simplified for us to understand.
There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. On his right arm he bore a glorious palm, and on each leaf was written "Victory." Around his head was a dazzling white wreath, and leaves on the wreath, and in the middle of each leaf was written "Purity," and around the wreath were stones of various colors, that shone brighter than the stars, and cast a reflection upon the letters and magnified them. EW p. 40
At the transfiguration of Yashua, Moses, and Elijah who had been translated, were sent to talk with Yashua in regard to his sufferings, and be the bearers of the Father Elohims glory to his dear Son. 1SP p. 343
I saw that the faith of the disciples was greatly strengthened at the transfiguration. Elohim chose to give the followers of Yashua strong proof that he was the promised Messiah, that in their bitter sorrow and disappointment they should not entirely cast away their confidence. At the transfiguration Yahweh sent Moses and Elias to talk with Yashua concerning his sufferings and death. Instead of choosing angels to converse with his Son, Elohim chose those who had an experience in the trials of earth. 1SG p. 40
Was Enoch immortal? Oh yes because He found favor in Yahweh and became so close to Yahweh where Adam didn't that Yahweh took Him. Do I question what Yahweh can do? No because He is outside of man's box and the Father and Creator of the universe.
If you notice that EGW saw things after the IJ and Enoch had his robe and a wreath that was given after he was sealed. If you understood Rev Chapters five and six you would completely understand the Investigated Judgment. The Father is sitting on throne and His Son as the Lamb comes and take the Book. The same scene Daniel saw also during his time. The Son opens the Book of Life and the first two are sealed are Adam and Eve. The horse is the earth before sin. The second horse is the earth not only with sin but tasting the first human death Abel. But remember we are dealing all who are sealed which include Able to Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives. Now that would include Enoch in this sealing process don't you think? The black horse show how quickly after the flood that sin had again taken over the people of this world through Nimrod! Those who are sealed would be those who stayed with Noah down to the time Yashua was on the earth. Last horse covers two seals because now the earth is in the process of dying. The people are the apostles through the great Reformation because these are the souls under the altar asking for Yahweh to avenge their death. But Yahweh instead tells them to wait and He symbolically gives them their robes different from Enoch, Elijah, and Moses and I tell you why. They were dead and not giving the privilege that the honored three have. In other words when they get to Heaven their robes will be waiting for them! The Heavenly Father also stated they had to rest because more people will give up their lives during the six seal. Some people have died in other countries all over the world for truth but this is referring to those during the Time of Trouble. The 1444, 000 will be the only ones who will finish and bring in the great multitude. So the sixth and final seal is from the Reformation until the Time of Trouble.
Yashua took care of the three men when the Investigated Judgment began and sealed them. The Bible did not change but Yahweh does things according to His will and purpose and they are examples for us as well.
Colossians 1:18 was not referring to Moses but to the ones that came up after Yashua (the firstfruit) was resurrected. Even the old writers like Clarke and Wesley understood this as well.
He might have the preeminence. Literally, He might come to hold first rank. Yashua was declared to be the Son of Elohim with power,
by the resurrection from the dead (Rom. 1:4; Phil. 2:9). The SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7p. 192
Even though Moses was raised before He died in the flesh, Yashua still was first rank because He was Elohim that became flesh. Yashua also had the power as One of the Elohim to be able of His Own accord to pick up His Human body that was dead and revive it. He called Moses to life and Moses was resurrected to live again with immortality.
Finally, once again you are thinking like Greek dogma which you were warned not to in Daniel. Flesh and blood or tissues and all body fluids cannot enter the kingdom of Yahweh. Yes Yashua came through the door after He died but He still had a body! It was more perfect than Enoch, Moses or Elijah because the "Word became flesh," but when He rose His once fleshy body became immortal like His Divinity body. You will understand the mystery if you would allow the Holy Spirit to show you all truth with acceptance. Thomas felt His Human and Divinity Body together as a Spirit. Please stop thinking like the Hellenized world and allow Elohim to show you because to me it is simple. Elohim atoms or molecular structures are different than ours and Yashua show it when He walked through the door. Our bones and appearance will not change that why those three disciples knew who Elijah and Moses was. Wake up this is the great mystery and power of the Almighty Ones and they have revealed it to us but we must understand the Bible as the men of old did and not like our Greek confused minds today!
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1Co 15:51
Happy Sabbath and Blessings,
stinsonmarri
