Who is God?

[granpa]

God is an 'all' powerful being.

The question is what is meant by 'all' powerful.​

to give an example:

fire of God = lightening = 'all' fire
the modern equivalent of 'fire of God' would be a nuclear weapon​

 

[icedbun]

Isn't creating ex nihilo enough to be omnipotent?

 

[granpa]

well, thats one way of defining 'all' powerful but there are others.

I, for one, dont see the act of merely creating things as being sufficient justification for calling the creator 'God'.

I also dont believe in 'something from nothing'. Not even God can do that.

 

[icedbun]

well, thats one way of defining 'all' powerful but there are others.

I, for one, dont see the act of merely creating things as being sufficient justification for calling the creator 'God'.

I also dont believe in 'something from nothing'. Not even God can do that.

Well there aren't to many possibilities to deal with the creation of the universe so far as I know. There is the math that takes us back to the point a few fractions of a second before the Big Bang and there is the Background Microwave Radiation which has the potential to perhaps see back before the Big Bang or we have a personal creator God who created hte universe.

Where so you stand on this, granpa?

 

[granpa]

my position is that that would be a different thread

 

[icedbun]

Start one then so we can carry on discussion.

 

[granpa]

lol

 

[juvenissun]

well, thats one way of defining 'all' powerful but there are others.

I, for one, dont see the act of merely creating things as being sufficient justification for calling the creator 'God'.

I also dont believe in 'something from nothing'. Not even God can do that.

Hey, this is a surprise. Are you serious about it? Something God can NOT do? Why would you have this idea?

 

[granpa]

I cant begin to imagine why 'God cant do something thats impossible' would be a surprise to anybody.

 

[juvenissun]

I cant begin to imagine why 'God cant do something thats impossible' would be a surprise to anybody.

All right. Then who said that something is impossible? You or God?

 

[granpa]

reason says its impossible. Its self contradictory.

God would agree because he is 'Logos' (reason)

 

[juvenissun]

reason says its impossible. Its self contradictory.

God would agree because he is 'Logos' (reason)

If so, why is that a clay doll became an alive man possible?

If it is not, than are you suggesting that Gen 1 is all fictional?

 

[theFijian]

well, thats one way of defining 'all' powerful but there are others.

I, for one, dont see the act of merely creating things as being sufficient justification for calling the creator 'God'.

I also dont believe in 'something from nothing'. Not even God can do that.

So where did God come from?