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Who created the creation?

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Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning, God [Elohim plural] created [singular] the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Elohim-God and the Spirit of God were involved.

Psalm 33:
6 By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
YHWH-LORD was involved.

John 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
The Word was involved.

Who were involved in the creation?

Elohim-God, the Spirit of God, YHWH-LORD, and the Word were involved in the creation. Together, they are the Godhead-Divinity.
 

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Genesis 1:

Elohim-God and the Spirit of God were involved.

Psalm 33:

YHWH-LORD was involved.

John 1:

The Word was involved.

Who were involved in the creation?

Elohim-God, the Spirit of God, YHWH-LORD, and the Word were involved in the creation. Together, they are the Godhead-Divinity.

I think you are grabbing at straws … by attempting to put something together that is not there.

('ĕlōhîm)

'ĕlōhîm
is a plural intensive which is always used with a singular verb …. ”created” is singular.



(Spirit of God)

John_4:24…
The God a spirit... [the article is in the Greek.] And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters …… That is just God.



(YHWH-LORD)


YHWH is just a name that God went by ….along with many others which defined Him or expressed Him.



(The Word)

Jhn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I know how people try to attribute this to Jesus Christ … But that is clearly a stretch.

Logos has a wide range of meanings along two basic lines of thought. One is the mind and products of the mind, like reason (thus logic is related to logos) ….the other is the expression of that reason as a word, saying, command, etc.

Logos is used in the Greek over 300X and translated over 35 different ways, including ….appearance, book, command, conversation, flattery, grievance, instruction, matter, message, ministry, proposal, question, report rumor, sentence, speaker, speaking,………… and more.

Jesus Christ it's not a lexicon definition of logos….and it does not say in the beginning was Jesus….. The word is not synonymous with Jesus or even the Messiah …..The word logos in John_1:1 refers to God's creative self-expression…. His reason, purpose, and plan especially as they are brought into action. It refers to God's self-expression or communication of himself.



In putting together a committee that made or created the creations you then have to answer for the contradictions that you now have ….without more private interpretation ….here are a couple

Isa 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that He had made
 
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I think you are grabbing at straws … by attempting to put something together that is not there.

('ĕlōhîm)

'ĕlōhîm
is a plural intensive which is always used with a singular verb …. ”created” is singular.
See Is "elohim" singular or plural? and follow up there.
 
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Genesis 1:

Elohim-God and the Spirit of God were involved.

Psalm 33:

YHWH-LORD was involved.

John 1:

The Word was involved.

Who were involved in the creation?

Elohim-God, the Spirit of God, YHWH-LORD, and the Word were involved in the creation. Together, they are the Godhead-Divinity.
Are you trying to say YHVH means Lord? If so, it doesn't. Adon or Adonai is Lord or Master. LORD was written in the Bible so as not to try and pronounce YHVH...
 
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