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Who Built The Pyramids & How ?

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We also read about the stone foundation that Solomon used for the temple. The temple mount is still there today. The temple itself was built with cedar from Lebanon which we are told is more beautiful than any tree in Eden. The cedars are still there in the area where they have the sky resorts. Only a few remain, the forests are gone. Ezekiel 31 "No tree in the garden of God could compare with its beauty. 9I made it beautiful with its many branches, the envy of all the trees of Eden, which were in the garden of God."

How true this is but legend has it that King Solomon enslaved the Demons to do his bidding to build the temple & it was Hiram who supplied him with the cedars which came from Tarshish.

THE LEGENDS OF THE JEWS. BY LOUIS GINZBERG

And Hiram king of Tyre had supplied Solomon with cedar and cypress timber and gold, as much as he desired …” (1 King 9:11) “For the king had a fleet of ships of Tarshish at sea with the fleet of Hiram.
 
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Given that each and every recorded instance of the levitating monk trick has been a clear hoax. I think it’s safe to say that they’re all hoaxes.
Leedskalnin , a few decades ago, was reported to decide to take his invention/method to the patent office. On the way there, he was robbed and killed. Still a mystery, and greatly covered up since then.

He knew how to use electricity and magnets to move huge objects or stones.
 
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Do you want to know ? (If God Permits)
I think I ought to have worded that differently. Rather than saying, "How that fits with the New Testament letters being written to 1st century churches like the churches at Ephesus and Rome, and 1st century Christians like Timothy, I don't know," it would have been a better expression of what I was thinking if I'd said, "That doesn't fit with the New Testament letters being written to 1st century churches like the churches at Ephesus and Rome, and 1st century Christians like Timothy." In other words, Armstrong's words, saying that the bible is a coded book “not intended to be understood until our day in this latter half of the twentieth century,” disagrees with the letters of the New Testament being written to 1st century Christians.
 
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More bizarre fairytales......

How do you know they are fairy tales ? Solomon was the wisest king to have ever lived he knew it all, even how to conjure up Demons.
 
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How true this is but legend has it that King Solomon enslaved the Demons to do his bidding to build the temple & it was Hiram who supplied him with the cedars which came from Tarshish.

THE LEGENDS OF THE JEWS. BY LOUIS GINZBERG

And Hiram king of Tyre had supplied Solomon with cedar and cypress timber and gold, as much as he desired …” (1 King 9:11) “For the king had a fleet of ships of Tarshish at sea with the fleet of Hiram.
It might be a legend, but there is nothing in the bible about demons being involved in building the temple. I wonder what reason the legend gives for demons even wanting to be involved in building a temple for almighty God.
 
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Quran mentions case of Solomon... someone providing fairy tales to you, not good.
Quran is false god/ false information/ idolatry or worse to read or accept (it is enemy of YHVH, Jesus, and of Jesus' followers) .
 
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Quran mentions case of Solomon... someone providing fairy tales to you, not good.
Quran is false god/ false information/ idolatry or worse to read or accept (it is enemy of YHVH, Jesus, and of Jesus' followers) .

I didn't read it in the Quran I read it in the The Legend of the Jews buy Louis Ginzberg.

 
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I didn't read it in the Quran I read it in the The Legend of the Jews buy Louis Ginzberg.

I have followed the link. It contains these totally unbiblical words: "When a demon named Ornias harasses a young man (who is favored by Solomon) by stealing half of his pay and sucking out his vitality through the thumb on his right hand, Solomon prays in the temple and receives from the archangel Michael a magic ring with the seal of God (in the shape of a pentagram) on it which will enable him to command the demons. Solomon has the young man throw the ring at the demon Ornias, which stamps him with the seal and brings him under control. Then Solomon orders the demon Ornias to take the ring and similarly imprint the prince of demons, Beelzebul.

With Beelzebul under his command, Solomon now has all of the demons at his bidding to build the temple. Beelzebul reveals that he was formerly the highest ranking angel in Heaven."

I wouldn't have anything to do with this "legend". Rather, rely on the bible account of the building of the temple.
 
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I find the whole mega pyramid period which lasted only around 100 years within a 5,000 year period very strange and unbelievable that it was done with the existing tools in the records which were basically small copper saws about 3 foot long, copper chisels, pounding stones, small wooden sleds about 20 foot long and hemp rope.

Khufu was suppose to have built the Giza pyramid in 25 years. That includes planning, training and then leveling the bedrock, laying down a basalt pavement big enough to incorporate the pyramid as well as a massive pavement out front. Cut the blocks at the quarry miles away, transport all the rock slabs some as big as 1500 tons that made the large statues and Obelisks.

Cut the blocks, haul them onto the pyramid. Oh forget they had to dig into the bedrock first to make the underground shafts and chambers as well. Someone worked out just for the pyramid blocks it would have required one block finished and layed every 5 minutes for 24 hours a day for 25 years.

Sneferu was suppose to have built 3 mega pyramids, Bent Pyramid, Red Pyramid and Meidum pyramid in around 40 years. The other great pyramids the 2nd and 3rd pyramids next to the Giza pyramids were all built in around 80 years. Add to this the first pyramid of Djsor the Djsoer pyramid which was sort of a pyramid but built like a mega Mastaba its only 100 years of building all these works.

But you have to remember that along with these pyramids came the all the mega structures like 100 foot and 1,000 plus ton statues and Obelisks.

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Massive temples and tombs above and dug out across the Giza plateau much we have not discovered as well as all the boxes, smaller statues, vases and many other precision works all done in this small time period. There was around 40,000 vases found under Djsoers pyranid. Oh and don't forget the Sphinx.

So this work done in such a short time by basically pounding, grinding and rubbing the hardest of stone into shape. It doesn't seem possible. The idea of just saying that 10s of 1,000's of workers slaved in the hot desert sun chipping away to create these amazing works seems a cop out. Saying elbow grease and time doesn't explain things. Its an unsatisfactory explanation because it doesn't address how exactly.

A lot of the signatures in the stones don't match the tools in the archeological records. For example we have a 20 foot wooden sled in the Petrie Museum which is basically suppose to carry a 100 foot plus 1200 ton flab of granite. We have a 2 to 3 foot copper saw that is suppose to saw a 10 foot by 6 foot granite box in one go.

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After around the 4th dynasty the pyramids become smaller and the megalithic statues and pricision works stop. It was as though the knowledge and skill was lost or the later dynastic Egyptians found the megaliths and precision works and inherited them and tried to copy them but could not produce the same level of precision and size.

But this is reflected throughout the world. Many cultures have ancient megaliths and other precision works that seem to disappear and later people come along and inherit these works. They actually try to repair them and often make these works the center of worship like they are honored as something from the gods.

The ancient peoples including the Egyptians claim they did not make these megaliths and precision works but inherited them from the gods or some advanced people. Ao its interesting that the cultures involved today do not take ownership of the works as part of their own distant culture but that they come from some god like people.

Though mainstream archeology tries to force them to take ownership even though the culture itself say they did not create them. Almost as though western archeologists are dictating to other cultures what they own stories must be and deny their own experiences.
 
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How do you know they are fairy tales ? Solomon was the wisest king to have ever lived he knew it all, even how to conjure up Demons.
Firstly, being able to conjure demons isn't a sign of wisdom - just the opposite.
Secondly, Solomon sent a message to say that he intended to start building a temple for God's glory - just as God had prophesied to David, 1 Kings 5:3-6. When it was finished he dedicated it to God and brought the ark of the Covenant to the temple.
So God had said that Solomon would build it, Solomon wanted to build it to God's glory and dedicated it all to God when he had finished.

How likely is it that a) he wanted/needed demons to help him and b) the demons said "hey, Solomon is building a magnificent building to glorify God; let's go and give him a hand"? They would have been more likely to have destroyed it.
 
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I didn't read it in the Quran I read it in the The Legend of the Jews buy Louis Ginzberg.

Why would God dwell on a temple created by demons? This obviously doesn't make sense.

In the Testament of Solomon, the firmament is conceived in a tripartite structure and demons are portrayed as being capable of flying up to and past the firmament in order to eavesdrop on the decisions of God.[8]

Lol.
 
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You too :)

Ha, I hope I've used the right 'too' ????:D
:) You have - but I'd let you off anyway.
Friendship is more important than grammar.
 
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What the mind can conceive the body can achieve.
Yeah in some ways. But when you see say a 20 foot wooden sled and a 100 plus foot 1200 ton block no amount of human willpower and strength could move that. Or the signatures in the stones themselves not matching the primitive small saws but rather machine marks its not just about the mind but practicality.

The time period is just one aspect that causes people to intuitive believe something else was going on besides sheer manpower. When you put them altogether it begins to bring up doubts about the orthodox story.

The only aspect I think the mind would come in is not willpower but knowledge. Some inside knowledge about nature. We know they knew about the Sacred and Golden ration in their measurements of vases and even the pyramids themselves. So did they have some insights into how nature worked.
 
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its not just about the mind
Everything starts in the mind. Look at how complicated a car is and all the part you have to make to build a car. You can see how the mind has developed over the last 10,000 years by what people build.
 
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