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<blockquote data-quote="ArmenianJohn" data-source="post: 74316385" data-attributes="member: 324023"><p>It's probably because you're an atheist that you don't understand the Bible. Jesus taught mercy and Grace but Jesus also honored His Justice. He said that he came not to destroy the Law but to fulfill it. Grace is the completion of Justice. At the same time, He makes it clear that God metes out His justice via earthly governmental authority in Romans 13. So, no, Jesus did not contradict nor deny "an eye for an eye"; rather, He taught more upon it. His teaching of Grace wouldn't work if there was no foundation of Justice, i.e. "an eye for an eye'. That's the point of that passage.</p><p></p><p>It's fine if you choose not to believe in Christianity, but if you're going to argue about it at least understand it correctly first.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, you tried to pivot away from my example by making it not about the tech field. No matter... Your response doesn't hold water. The fact that there are places where blacks and browns exist at the professional level doesn't negate the fact that overwhelmingly they are underrepresented in entire fields, most of which are the premium jobs and opportunities.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What you say has a lot of truth to it, but again it doesn't negate the fact that our society has built-in prejudices which adversely affect certain demographic groups overwhelmingly unfairly. As for "who claim their group is the only group that is okay to discriminate against" - are you upset that your group isn't being discriminated against? Do you want all groups to be discriminated against based on their respective demographics? Why do you want so much discrimination? It sounds like you're upset that your group has too many advantages and privileges and want white people to have as many or more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I've been there. Funny you mention Compton of all places. First time I had to go to work in Cerritos I left LAX in my rental car and drove right through Compton, unwittingly. LAPD saw me and gave me a little escort. I didn't think they were, but as I was getting to the on-ramp for the freeway, they pulled up alongside of me and were staring at me so when I looked over at them they said "You have a good day sir, stay safe!" I thought they were getting ready to pull me over but no, they were escorting me till I could get onto the freeway.</p><p></p><p>What happens when you go to Compton? LAPD escorts you through? Where do you get preferential treatment from LAPD?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Fortunately, I would and I DO! lol</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because the very low level of racism that whites experience is nothing, that's why. It's always some blowhard whiny dummy that is outraged over everything that fits the description of "white person experiencing racism". Yeah, I have no problem mocking those types right to their face. "Wahhh, the most discriminated against people are white middle-aged christians, wah!!!!" Come on - WEAK. The stupid things they whine about are just so easily mocked.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I lived 2 years in L.A. In case you're unaware there's a huge Armenian community in that city. Doesn't matter, things are the same there and in the NYC metro and just about anywhere else.</p><p></p><p>When I go to an economially oppressed, high crime, violent neighborhood which is mostly non-white, police go out of their way to help me and lookout for me. That's "white privilege" - just one example. When I go anywhere in midtown Manhattan, where I work, I get "sir" and all sorts of politeness and special attention that my black and hispanic co-workers don't. When we go out to lunch, all dressed similarly and obviously co-workers, when the bill comes, they give it to me because they think I'm the boss (and I'm not). They talk to me, they ask me the questions. You don't know about white privilege because you're not white and you don't receive it.</p><p></p><p>If you want to believe white privilege doesn't exist and that you and other blacks have the same exact opportunities then fine, go ahead and believe it. But if you're going to try to convince me of that you need to back it up with more than your anecdotes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArmenianJohn, post: 74316385, member: 324023"] It's probably because you're an atheist that you don't understand the Bible. Jesus taught mercy and Grace but Jesus also honored His Justice. He said that he came not to destroy the Law but to fulfill it. Grace is the completion of Justice. At the same time, He makes it clear that God metes out His justice via earthly governmental authority in Romans 13. So, no, Jesus did not contradict nor deny "an eye for an eye"; rather, He taught more upon it. His teaching of Grace wouldn't work if there was no foundation of Justice, i.e. "an eye for an eye'. That's the point of that passage. It's fine if you choose not to believe in Christianity, but if you're going to argue about it at least understand it correctly first. Right, you tried to pivot away from my example by making it not about the tech field. No matter... Your response doesn't hold water. The fact that there are places where blacks and browns exist at the professional level doesn't negate the fact that overwhelmingly they are underrepresented in entire fields, most of which are the premium jobs and opportunities. What you say has a lot of truth to it, but again it doesn't negate the fact that our society has built-in prejudices which adversely affect certain demographic groups overwhelmingly unfairly. As for "who claim their group is the only group that is okay to discriminate against" - are you upset that your group isn't being discriminated against? Do you want all groups to be discriminated against based on their respective demographics? Why do you want so much discrimination? It sounds like you're upset that your group has too many advantages and privileges and want white people to have as many or more. I've been there. Funny you mention Compton of all places. First time I had to go to work in Cerritos I left LAX in my rental car and drove right through Compton, unwittingly. LAPD saw me and gave me a little escort. I didn't think they were, but as I was getting to the on-ramp for the freeway, they pulled up alongside of me and were staring at me so when I looked over at them they said "You have a good day sir, stay safe!" I thought they were getting ready to pull me over but no, they were escorting me till I could get onto the freeway. What happens when you go to Compton? LAPD escorts you through? Where do you get preferential treatment from LAPD? Fortunately, I would and I DO! lol Because the very low level of racism that whites experience is nothing, that's why. It's always some blowhard whiny dummy that is outraged over everything that fits the description of "white person experiencing racism". Yeah, I have no problem mocking those types right to their face. "Wahhh, the most discriminated against people are white middle-aged christians, wah!!!!" Come on - WEAK. The stupid things they whine about are just so easily mocked. I lived 2 years in L.A. In case you're unaware there's a huge Armenian community in that city. Doesn't matter, things are the same there and in the NYC metro and just about anywhere else. When I go to an economially oppressed, high crime, violent neighborhood which is mostly non-white, police go out of their way to help me and lookout for me. That's "white privilege" - just one example. When I go anywhere in midtown Manhattan, where I work, I get "sir" and all sorts of politeness and special attention that my black and hispanic co-workers don't. When we go out to lunch, all dressed similarly and obviously co-workers, when the bill comes, they give it to me because they think I'm the boss (and I'm not). They talk to me, they ask me the questions. You don't know about white privilege because you're not white and you don't receive it. If you want to believe white privilege doesn't exist and that you and other blacks have the same exact opportunities then fine, go ahead and believe it. But if you're going to try to convince me of that you need to back it up with more than your anecdotes. [/QUOTE]
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