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<blockquote data-quote="ArmenianJohn" data-source="post: 74314903" data-attributes="member: 324023"><p>I had a mother, not a "momma". Never called her "momma". Maybe your momma didn't know otherwise.</p><p></p><p>As for what my mother did teach me, she raised me as a Christian. Therefore, I learned that one principle of fairness and justice was "an eye for an eye". What that means is that when one person does a wrong then the authorities can enforce retribution by inflicting on that person what they inflicted upon someone else. More literally, if one man takes another man's eye out, then the victim has the right to take the eye from the assailant as justice, and authority will enforce that.</p><p></p><p>Do you consider it "two wrongs make a right" when a criminal is caught and forced to pay back what he stole? Are you saying "Just because the criminal stole doesn't make it right for the courts to steal back what he stole and return it to his victim!!!" Because that's basically what you're saying here. (And it's dead wrong.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for your anecdote, but unfortunately for you anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps you have something that backs up your anecdote? That's something I'll take more seriously.</p><p></p><p>As for me being wrong, you're wrong. I'm correct. Here's a report from the Brookings Institute that backs up what I'm saying:</p><p><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/research/black-and-hispanic-underrepresentation-in-tech-its-time-to-change-the-equation/" target="_blank">Black and Hispanic underrepresentation in tech: It’s time to change the equation</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you think that neither you nor I have any privileges over each other in life? Come to my office in midtown Manhattan and I can easily show you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would laugh so hard at white people who try to tell me what you proposed! I wouldn't have any problem with that! LOL</p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said that whites are the only racists, so I don't know where you get that idea from. I'm white, so I own up to the racism that I as a white person am responsible for and I speak up about the racism of other white people as well. I'm not black or hispanic or female so I don't speak for the racism or sexism of people from those demographics, because I can't, because I don't have experience with living life as those demographics.</p><p></p><p>So you think whites are pretty much not racist? Or you think that whites are no more racist than any others? Really? Please state as much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said that white people have all the privileges. That's what I meant when I said you don't understand the difference between "privilege" and "privileges". White people have an overall privilege in life. I don't get treated the same (negative) way as my black and hispanic friends when I go through life dealing with different stores, eateries, cops, etc. I've seen it, and my friends have told me about it, and those same friends and I have seen it and talked about it together on many occasions that we've gone out and it's happened.</p><p></p><p>So you believe that you get treated exactly as any white person in general society? That's great if you do get treated the same; but do you really believe that? You believe that you and I can spend a day in liberal New York City and everywhere we go we'll be treated the same way by everyone? LOL, wow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArmenianJohn, post: 74314903, member: 324023"] I had a mother, not a "momma". Never called her "momma". Maybe your momma didn't know otherwise. As for what my mother did teach me, she raised me as a Christian. Therefore, I learned that one principle of fairness and justice was "an eye for an eye". What that means is that when one person does a wrong then the authorities can enforce retribution by inflicting on that person what they inflicted upon someone else. More literally, if one man takes another man's eye out, then the victim has the right to take the eye from the assailant as justice, and authority will enforce that. Do you consider it "two wrongs make a right" when a criminal is caught and forced to pay back what he stole? Are you saying "Just because the criminal stole doesn't make it right for the courts to steal back what he stole and return it to his victim!!!" Because that's basically what you're saying here. (And it's dead wrong.) Thanks for your anecdote, but unfortunately for you anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps you have something that backs up your anecdote? That's something I'll take more seriously. As for me being wrong, you're wrong. I'm correct. Here's a report from the Brookings Institute that backs up what I'm saying: [URL="https://www.brookings.edu/research/black-and-hispanic-underrepresentation-in-tech-its-time-to-change-the-equation/"]Black and Hispanic underrepresentation in tech: It’s time to change the equation[/URL] [B][/B] So you think that neither you nor I have any privileges over each other in life? Come to my office in midtown Manhattan and I can easily show you. [B][/B] I would laugh so hard at white people who try to tell me what you proposed! I wouldn't have any problem with that! LOL [B][/B] I never said that whites are the only racists, so I don't know where you get that idea from. I'm white, so I own up to the racism that I as a white person am responsible for and I speak up about the racism of other white people as well. I'm not black or hispanic or female so I don't speak for the racism or sexism of people from those demographics, because I can't, because I don't have experience with living life as those demographics. So you think whites are pretty much not racist? Or you think that whites are no more racist than any others? Really? Please state as much. I never said that white people have all the privileges. That's what I meant when I said you don't understand the difference between "privilege" and "privileges". White people have an overall privilege in life. I don't get treated the same (negative) way as my black and hispanic friends when I go through life dealing with different stores, eateries, cops, etc. I've seen it, and my friends have told me about it, and those same friends and I have seen it and talked about it together on many occasions that we've gone out and it's happened. So you believe that you get treated exactly as any white person in general society? That's great if you do get treated the same; but do you really believe that? You believe that you and I can spend a day in liberal New York City and everywhere we go we'll be treated the same way by everyone? LOL, wow. [/QUOTE]
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