White v. Wright

[JM]

James White v. N.T. Wright on Justification

HERE

 

[bsd058]

I listened to half last night. I don't really understand New Perspectivism. I think I would like to read up on it to see where Wright is coming from.

 

[Keachian]

It was somewhat disappointing, neither White nor Wright managed to enunciate the distinctives and whether Wright is Reformed, of all the NPs he's possibly closest but there just wasn't time

 

[hedrick]

Wright is using a consistent covenant perspective, and tends not to see Paul is focusing on individual salvation in places where traditional scholarship saw that.

The advantage of this is that it helps reconcile Jesus and Paul. However I'm not convinced that it entirely succeeds. I find it hard to believe that Paul isn't speaking of individual salvation in some places where Wright sees things other ways. The one thing that I think does succeed is his definition of righteousness. God's righteousness is his commitment to the covenant. Reformed theology has tended to understand it as moral perfection.

I'm not going to listen to an hour and a half audio. Sorry. Usually when opposed by a traditional Reformed guy Wright will win, but that doesn't mean everything he says is right.

Wright is more critical of Luther than Calvin. He thinks his position is fairly close to Calvin's, though not identical.

 

[All Souls]

NPP is awesome

 

[AndOne]

I listened to it last Monday. "Tom" is a brilliant man but his superficial arrogance totally ruined it for me. I think James White put up a good defense - but it was obvious he needed more time to prepare.

 

[oworm]

Perhaps this may be helpful. The first two are short videos that are only a few minutes in duration.
What Is at Stake with Wright's View?
http://www.ligonier.org/learn/media/why-has-wright-struck-such-chord/

The link below will take you to a lecture given by Dr Sinclair Ferguson
. It is rather long but well worth the listen.
http://www.monergism.com/updates/on_the_new_perspective_mp3.php

 

[bsd058]

Has NT Wright written a volume on his perspective of Paul? I have his "The Trinitarian Faith" and I absolutely LOVED it! He writes clearly and it would be nice to see what he has to officially say about the subject so far.

 

[bsd058]

Found one: Paul: In Fresh Perspective: N. T. Wright: 9780800663575: Amazon.com: Books

 

[AndOne]

He has one on the NPP coming out this fall as well...

 

[Keachian]

Yes his volume on Paul from his Christian origins and the Question of God is coming out later this year:
Paul and the Faithfulness of God.

There's also What Saint Paul Really Said