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White Supremacists Are Targeting College Campuses Like Never Before

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I see your main point, but I disagree with it.
With what do you disagree? All I am asking is that the group abide by its own policy.

Further...I am interested in your answer to the question I asked above: "Do you think it would be okay for this group to install a student in this office even though he says he plans to seek opportunities to touch or have sex with women, even though those activities are forbidden?"
 
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I don't think this is about barring a group in the sense of telling them they can't meet, have their club rules, pray however they want, or whatever. This is about whether they meet the standard (which, in this instance, is just a matter of meeting the group's OWN standard) for receiving funds and having certain official privileges as an official student group.

Resistance to what? Apply your own rules across the board. If a gay student feels slighted and complains of discrimination, show that you apply the rules in the same way to everyone. Move on.
 
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It was an aberration amongst school articles...but he was fired from the paper, not kicked out of school. That article made it past several editors and other staff who knew exactly what was in it and raised zero objections. Several articles about the article interviewed students who felt it was hyperbolic...but made some good points.

The problem is that racist professors promote this garbage in their humanities classes. The students get involved in like-minded groups. It creates a bubble where the students don't realize how crazy they sound to the rest of the world...till something like this slips out.
 
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But the violence in Islam is not twisted to fit an agenda, in fact its "peaceful" Islam which is the twisted form to suit an agenda. Islam is a violent supremacist ideology, starting with its founder.

What annoys me is how people who complain about "white" society, "white privilege" and "white" people, in general which is largely baseless, can then defend Islam, an actual supremacist ideology, with many of its followers supporting its "superiority" over others and in many nations where they are the majority, laws that favour Islam written right there in the codes of law of their nations. its got to the point where being "white" a genetic thing that nobody can change is treated like its an "ideology" and being Muslim, an ideology/religion that you can leave or cease to be part of is treated like its an "ethnicity". So white people are guilty over something they have no control over, but then its wrong to judge people who follow Islam, a supremacist ideology at its core, that they could leave and abandon if they chose?

Any person who bemoans "white privilege", "White" society etc, but then defends Islam and then claims they fight against inequality and injustice, is frankly the worst kind of fraud, even though they are so brainwashed they can't see it. If they were really against Supremacy, Islam would be top of he list of oppressive systems they'd fight against.
 
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It was an aberration amongst school articles...but he was fired from the paper, not kicked out of school.....etc.
Maybe so, but surely you agree that in the USA at the present time, the overwhelming majority of the "hate / racism" is coming from the right? That is not to excuse the problems on the left, but rather to gain perspective.
 
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Nice fan faction. White supremacists have increased their presence on college campuses, so we get a false claim of BLM being the New Black Panther Party, despite that group not having a presence on college campuses... it's like a weird form of whataboutism. Let's ignore the group connected to five murders and try to smear BLM with claims it is the Black Panthers.
 
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What's funny is seeing people complain about people perverting their religion and then turn around and squarely say that another group perverting a religion is not actually perverting a religion. Putting "peaceful" in quotes does not change the fact that most followers of Islam are peaceful, are not terrorists, and are not supportive of violence. Such attitudes makes someone's prejudice quite obvious.
 
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Mega-dittoes.

Plus there's plenty of war and violence from Israel in our Scripture, no?
 
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While the vast majority of Muslims might not be hard line ISIS terrorists.

The vast majority of practising Muslims do however support a system where they are top dogs in society and there is inequality for non-Muslims.

Like I said, people bemoaning "white privilege" and holding white people as a collective who then defend Islam and call those who highlight the supremacist nature of Islam as "islamophobes" and "bigots" are just making it up as they go along.

Muslims are only for true "equality" in places they're a minority, while "white people" in places even where they are a majority, there is loads of white people for equality, in most "white" majority nations, there is comprehensive equality laws.

All over the world, where Muslims have power, they suppress others, they build supremacist societies for themselves and after the twilight of nationalism (as in Arab, Turkish, Indonesian Nationalist, etc) and left wing socialism in the 20th century made Islam go into temporary slumber, now its back and Islamist thought is growing day by day and more and more Muslims are thinking pure sharia and supremacy is the way forward

I have got the point where people shouting "islamophobia" will not silence me calling out evil supremacy when I see it.

Those who jump to defend Islam are defending that supremacist system, they enable it, they are just as guilty as the Islamists themselves, for then a large section of these same people to de-cry "white supremacism" and judge white people as the collective, to think of themselves as the moral ones, its laughable. They're not better than those who make excuses for actual white-supremacists and Nazis.

If you defend Islam and deny its a supremacist system (based back on its founder, who was nothing like Christ, before you try and twist it onto Christianity), don't dare try and argue for that "white privilege" exists.

I also cannot understand how people who identify as "Christian" can be more loyal to Muslims than fellow Christians on account of skin colour. Muslims mainly advocate treating Christians and non-Muslims as second class dhimmis. Christians in Islamic societies live a life that mirrors that of jim crow in some places, just look at the story of Asia Bibi in Pakistan, her story could be straight from the 1950s deep south, with Muslims filling the role of white people and Christians that of black people.
 
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The vast majority of practising Muslims do however support a system where they are top dogs in society and there is inequality for non-Muslims.
Can you support this claim with evidence? I am somewhat skeptical, although I am open to being convinced otherwise.

My best guess is that while the doctrine of Islam - even "moderate" Islam - may well be regressive and downright bad for living things, the vast majority of Muslims do not really buy into that stuff.
 
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Just as the vast majority of us Christians do not give all we have to the poor...although one might expect it, reading our book...
 
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The people that make such claims do not have Muslim friends or know any Muslims besides the images the see on TV or read about online. They accept a distorted picture as reality, this is the same reason that some people believe Africa (which they treat as a country) is all undeveloped or that the entire country of Mexico is a "war zone" (as opposed the cartel problems mostly taking place in the northern states). I take it as a statement borne of fear and ignorance of the unknown.
 
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It seems odd to me that a billion Muslims are assumed to have nothing but war-verses written on their hearts in fiery letters, while Christians are assumed to more or less ignore their book in favor of whatever their denomination teaches...

Psalm 137:9
 
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Maybe so, but surely you agree that in the USA at the present time, the overwhelming majority of the "hate / racism" is coming from the right? That is not to excuse the problems on the left, but rather to gain perspective.

On college campuses? No. If you want a good look at institutional racism, takea good hard look at the modern college system. I imagine that the white nationalists are targeting recruitment there because white students are constantly shamed and made to apologize for the color of their skin. It is probably a pretty good place to recruit, sadly.
 
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Maybe so, but surely you agree that in the USA at the present time, the overwhelming majority of the "hate / racism" is coming from the right? That is not to excuse the problems on the left, but rather to gain perspective.

No...not at all...how am I supposed to measure something like that?
 
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So they become supremacists?

Perhaps in the eyes of some who aren't white. It can be sort of a defense mechanism to make accusations against those who are standing up for themselves when the opposition wants to keep them sitting down and silent.
 
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My Mother is Kosovan Albanian and technically a "Muslim", though totally non-practising, just like some one who ticks the "Muslim" box on a census.

As I have said before, the vast majority of liberal Muslims who belief in true equality are non-practising "name-only" Muslims, I know loads of Albanians and Turks especially like this.

Also their is a huge Muslim community in my city, a lot are full on Islamists, I grew up around them.

But as for the practising Muslims, the beauty of the modern age is you can get a rough feel of how they think by seeing their comments on social media, forums and such and frankly, the vast majority seem to think Sharia is wonderful and the way the world should be run and hardly any stand for equality, they would impose their laws in a heartbeat everywhere if they could.
 
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Surely you can understand that this is not very convincing - we need some hard data, not personal impressions. If you could quote a survey that showed, for example, that 50% of Muslims want to see Sharia Law incorporated into the Law of the Land, you would have something.
 
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But by the same token you cannot prove that most practising Muslims don't believe in draconian sharia over equality.

You base your feelings on what you think and what you feel, everybody does.

What would a survey prove, they only question a small percentage of people, also one could simply lie in order to fool a survey, so it means nothing.

You can get every survey under the sun, it would mean nothing to me, I see their comments and what they think and I have spoken to many, right back at school, to those in the workplace, nearly all practising Muslims I have spoken to in my day to day life, read comments online, social media, forums would all support a sharia ruled nation, sometimes they put a front on, but if you know the questions to ask, you end up trapping them. They see nothing wrong with treating us a second class Dhimmis as to them, that is the moral way to treat us and also nearly all agree with punishing those who leave Islam in some form, to them, its us being unreasonable being against such treatment.

Non-practising Muslims, yeah, I will 100% agree, they would not dream of ruling everywhere by sharia.

But then again, seen as "white people" are constantly addressed in the collective, concepts like "white privilege" are becoming the norm and all white people can be judged in the negative (even though loads of white people agree with true equality, far more than any Muslims do, but that gets missed for some reason) its kind of pathetic to that criticize those judging Islam, which is an ideology, not a "race" (though I don't believe in different races, we're one human race), which deserves to be view with far more criticism.

Like I said, what is funny here, is people who judge white people, argue concepts such as "white privilege" exist, in which all white people share some responsibility and judge white people in the collective, are the same ones who then jump to defend Muslims and Islam, which is an ideology which when followed truly, is a supremacist ideology. The rules are made up as they do along, all the things people judge and blame "white society" for, we can 100% judge Islamic societies in the same way, in fact, there is more grounds to judge Islamic superiority than "white privilege" and also, Islamist ideology is far more widespread world wide currently than any white supremacy or Neo-Nazism, so it should be getting more coverage and being rooted out.
 
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You're supposed to listen and believe groups like the SPLC.

Research into hate groups and their numbers doesn't say much about racism/hate in general.

More to the point though, if one side is demonizing whites and men...I can't really support that side, even if I don't like what the other side has to say.
 
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