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White "development of Papacy" lacking.

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JacktheCatholic

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Jack my friend I actually saw a post of yours regarding a historical pope on the Catholic answers forum, and it drove me to checking where this left off... I appreciate your acknowledgement in regards to the supremacy of the bishop not being solidified!
It was this truth that initiated my desire to study this, in that Vat 1 claimed this supremacy was "Known for all ages".

Would you share some of those differing ideas of early bishops with me? I truly value your insight!
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I will share but first...

Do you know of the Pope I was asking of at Catholic Answers?

It has been driving me crazy trying to find the details. I am beginning to think I imagined it. LOL
 
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I will share but first...

Do you know of the Pope I was asking of at Catholic Answers?

It has been driving me crazy trying to find the details. I am beginning to think I imagined it. LOL
I'll go back and find your post and check my books tonight! See if this here fundy can resolve a catholic history question!:D
 
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I'll go back and find your post and check my books tonight! See if this here fundy can resolve a catholic history question!:D


I am thinking it might be John XXII
 
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Here's an omline summary...does it sound like him?
http://www.cfpeople.org/Books/Pope/popep194.htm


This particular passage from NewAdvent is why I think it is John XXII that I am trying to remember:

In the last years of John's pontificate there arose a dogmatic conflict about the Beatific Vision, which was brought on by himself, and which his enemies made use of to discredit him. Before his elevation to the Holy See, he had written a work on this question, in which he stated that the souls of the blessed departed do not see God until after the Last Judgment. After becoming pope, he advanced the same teaching in his sermons. In this he met with strong opposition, many theologians, who adhered to the usual opinion that the blessed departed did see God before the Resurrection of the Body and the Last Judgment, even calling his view heretical. A great commotion was aroused in the University of Paris when the General of the Minorites and a Dominican tried to disseminate there the pope's view. Pope John wrote to King Philip IV on the matter (November, 1333), and emphasized the fact that, as long as the Holy See had not given a decision, the theologians enjoyed perfect freedom in this matter. In December, 1333, the theologians at Paris, after a consultation on the question, decided in favour of the doctrine that the souls of the blessed departed saw God immediately after death or after their complete purification; at the same time they pointed out that the pope had given no decision on this question but only advanced his personal opinion, and now petitioned the pope to confirm their decision. John appointed a commission at Avignon to study the writings of the Fathers, and to discuss further the disputed question. In a consistory held on 3 January, 1334, the pope explicitly declared that he had never meant to teach aught contrary to Holy Scripture or the rule of faith and in fact had not intended to give any decision whatever. Before his death he withdrew his former opinion, and declared his belief that souls separated from their bodies enjoyed in heaven the Beatific Vision.


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08431a.htm
 
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