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which errors in the quran ?The point is what some think are "errors" in the Bible has no place in this thread.
It looks to me like you are trying to detail my topic in order to try to cover up an error in the Qur'an. Your response shows you are very nervous and have panicked.
[FONT="]7. Forgetting that the Bible is a human book with human characteristics.[/FONT]
Allaho Akbar, you mentioned it yourself, a human book human book, is that mean that it was writen and composed by men? I wonder I thought you believe that the Bible is your God words not human book.
which errors in the quran ?
This is not the topic of "errors in the Qur'an."
The topic is Noah and the son that allegedly drown.
According to the Holy Bible Noah had 3 sons and these 3 sons, including their wives, plus Noah and his wife stepped on the Ark and were saved from the flood -- eight people in all.
According to the Qur'an one of Noah's sons refused to get on the Ark and drowned.
Which son drowned?
Thank you.
I have no idea but if it is not in the original story, why go to another source which was written thousands of years after the original? Admittedly, the story of Noah was an oral tradition and written down by Moses many generations after the fact, but still...
By this logic, shouldn't we look to the Epic of Gilgamesh then, since it details the flood story hundreds if not thousands of years before the Talmud (Old Testament) was written?
By this logic, shouldn't we look to the Epic of Gilgamesh then, since it details the flood story hundreds if not thousands of years before the Talmud (Old Testament) was written?
What I could find (which was not much) was a mention of the flood but no details.
Wikipedia said:Many stories in Sumerian religion appear similar to stories in other Middle-Eastern religions. For example, the Biblical account of the creation of man as well as Noah's flood resemble the Sumerian tales very closely, though the Sumerian myths were written many centuries earlier than the Tanakh.
The religion of the ancient Sumerians has left its mark on the entire middle east. Not only are its temples and ziggurats scattered about the region, but the literature, cosmogony and rituals influenced their neighbors to such an extent that we can see echoes of Sumer in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition today. From these ancient temples, and to a greater extent, through cuneiform writings of hymns, myths, lamentations, and incantations, archaeologists and mythographers afford the modern reader a glimpse into the religious world of the Sumerians.
VII. I've heard there are Biblical parallels in Babylonian literature. What are they anyway?
Genesis: Creation of the universe
Ps:74:12-17 - YHWH vs. Leviathan; Marduk vs Tiamat. In the Enuma Elish, tablet IV, Marduk defeats the ocean goddess, Tiamat who is often depicted as a multi-headed dragon. He splits her apart, as YHWH splits apart the sea in Ps 74:13. He crushes her skull as YHWH crushes the skulls of the monster Leviathan in Ps 74:13-14. In tablet V, Marduk causes the crescent moon to appear, creates the seasons, the night and day, and creates springs from Tiamat's eyes, to form the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, as YHWH does in Ps 74:15-17 (Hooke p.106, Dalley pp.253-257)
Creation of humans.
Fall of man.
Adapa was the first "apkallu" (sage/priest), not the first man or first patriarch. He was given wisdom (knowledge of good and evil?) but not immortality. When in heaven (sent there for having broken the South Wind's wing), he is offered bread and water of eternal life. He refuses it, however having been tricked by Ea (in serpent role?) stating that he would be offered the bread and water of death instead. (Dalley pp. 182-188) In other references to the seven apkallu, he is the counsellor paired with the first anteluvian king on the Sumerian king lists (Dalley p. 328), Alulim - not Alulim himself, who was Adam's analog in patriarchal order.
Tower of Babel
As with the Sumerians, the most striking Biblical parallel within Akkadian myth is in the story of the flood. For the Babylonian account, see the entries on Atrahasis and Utnapishtim above.
Exodus - According to legend, Sargon was left in a basket in the Euphrates as an infant and "rose 'from an ark of bulrushes'" (Oppenheim, Ancient Mesopotamia p. 101). His adoptive father was a "laborer in a palm garden who spotted the basket containing the remarkable child" (Crawford p. 42) Sargon was originally the cupbearer to a king (Ur-Zababa) before achieving leadership on his own. (Crawford p. 25)
Weeping for Tammuz and the month of Tammuz. See also Biblical Parallels in Sumerian Mythology
I have no idea but if it is not in the original story, why go to another source which was written thousands of years after the original? Lisa
Did you ever get an answer?This is not the topic of "errors in the Qur'an."
The topic is Noah and the son that allegedly drown.
Why indeed.
If it is good enuf for the Jews and Muslims, it is good enuf for me.Good question. I've got an answer. It is the same reason why you read the Bible rather than the Talmud or other sources, see Sumerian Myths. It is to maintain your presuppositions of reality.
Originally Posted by um hamza
Noah's wife was not a believer with him so she did not join him; neither did one of Noah's sons,
who was secretly a disbeliever but had pretended faith in front of Noah. Likewise most of the
people were disbeliveers and did not go on board.
The scholars hold different opinions on the number of those who were with Noah on the ship. Ibn
Abbas stated that there were 80 believers while Ka ab al Ahbar held that there were 72 believers.
Others claimed that there were 10 believers with Noah.
Stories of the ProphetsTranslated by Muhammad Mustapha Geme’ah, Al-Azhar
Written by Al-Imam ibn Kathir
Perhaps I just missed it, but what passage in the Koran tells about one or some of Noah's kin/family not getting into the ark?Muslim source in order to cover up the mistake in the Qur'an.
Good question. I've got an answer. It is the same reason why you read the Bible rather than the Talmud or other sources, see Sumerian Myths. It is to maintain your presuppositions of reality.
Perhaps I just missed it, but what passage in the Koran tells about one or some of Noah's kin/family not getting into the ark?
there is no reason to post this?? I think you talk about my second post , but it's ok for you that little lamb says Perhaps Muhammad wanted to save on ink it's ok for you to moak about prophet Muhamed peace be upon him, and also he said Maybe one reaon they need to use our Bible for their own account. Who knows........
he thinks that Islam with his two main sources Quran and sunna need the Bible to get information from, no I won't accept that moaking so I replied to him my post was for his words and be sure that Iam telling no lies there already mistakes in the bible and for your information I have taken my post from christian site, I hope you get it no need for you to be angry
he said a thing about me and I replied, end of the deal
Perhaps they had a type of "megaphone" we use today. Interesting that word comes from the Greek words used in the NT/NC for "great-voice/sound"Here it is:......
Further than that, if there were waves like mountains this means that there would have been lots of wind.
How was it that this member who refused to get on the Ark could hear Noah over the noise of the wind from a diistance?
Perhaps they had a type of "megaphone" we use today. Interesting that word comes from the Greek words used in the NT/NC for "great-voice/sound"
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