Which news story is more devistating to you?

[Mϋzikdϋde]

Back on topic...

So what's worse? Torturing people and leaving them to live with it or giving them a quick death by beheading?

What a great question this is. How about this: What would you rather have done to you?

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

I think referring to the killers in this case as "the Muslims" is a direct shot and slap in the face to the thousands upon thousands of peaceable, friendly, kind Muslim people all across the world (including America ) The Christians committed atrocities and murdered women and children suspected of witchcraft. The Christians ordered bombs dropped on innocent civillians in Iraq. The Christians supported and trained Osama binLaden. The Christians ran an Inquisition. The Christians blasphemed Christ and charged money for the forgiveness of sins. It doesn't sound too nice in such general terms, does it? If you can find for me the people who did this and compare their actions to that of the Koran, which calls for peace and gives no excuse for this, then I'll believe you.

LOVE your posts, have I repped you?

Edit: consider yourself repped!

 

[draper]

Anyways not gonna bother reading the posts in here, but I'll just answer the OP's question -

How the hell are you supposed to even try to decide which event is more devastating??

 

[Blindfaith]

Neither. No way, no how. You have to include the neither option on that one Muzik.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

Just trying to put things into perspective

 

[Blessed75]

Good luck - I tried too.

Just trying to put things into perspective

 

[JOYfulbeliever]

No need to get sarcastic BF - I was just pointing out what I felt - Reading into things? Excuse me? Sorry, I was voicing my opinion and didn't realize that was against the rules. I guess when you said, "that's not too much to ask is it?" it sounded defensive and condscending to me - and I was honestly not wanting you to feel that you were being persecuted for your opinion.

Where exactly was the sarcasm?

Back to the OP - both were extremely tragic and both were extremely wrong. There is no justification for either. However, at the same time, like several others have said in the thread before me - the way I look at it - there is one case where a life was taken. I guess that weighs a little bit more on me.

What was done to the prisoners is not being excused by me. In no way shape or form.

But to answer the OP - the beheading.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

Neither. No way, no how. You have to include the neither option on that one Muzik.

Heh...are you not ready for tribulation? (Unless you're a pre-trib in which case the question's moot)

Would you choose one or the other if Jesus asked you to?

What I'm doing is trying to get you to think about which one is worse.

I'll take the beheading because it's quick and I know what my next stop is.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

Where exactly was the sarcasm?

Back to the OP - both were extremely tragic and both were extremely wrong. There is no justification for either. However, at the same time, like several others have said in the thread before me - the way I look at it - there is one case where a life was taken. I guess that weighs a little bit more on me.

What was done to the prisoners is not being excused by me. In no way shape or form.

But to answer the OP - the beheading.

Where's your faith? Death is not the worst thing you can be faced with. You are speaking from fear.

 

[Blessed75]

as a mod - you know that it shouldn't be brought out in public by others - especially so I don't feel ganged up on by mods - I've gone through the proper channels and wish to be left alone about it with all due respect. If you would like to talk about it - please pm me. I'd also like to add that if I can't point out someone overreacting to someone's sharing information that may change opinions, then really someone cannot point out my overreaction to someone's condecensation.

Where exactly was the sarcasm?

Back to the OP - both were extremely tragic and both were extremely wrong. There is no justification for either. However, at the same time, like several others have said in the thread before me - the way I look at it - there is one case where a life was taken. I guess that weighs a little bit more on me.

What was done to the prisoners is not being excused by me. In no way shape or form.

But to answer the OP - the beheading.

 

[Elyse]

Blindfaith, the army report notes that there have been more than ten deaths of detainees as well. (throughout the prison system)

I just want to bump this, so we can compare apples to apples while we debate the value of human suffering.

 

[Blessed75]

Thanks Elyse -

 

[draper]

oooooooooohhhhhh fine. I'll answer "just for fun"

I'd take the abuse cuz I have no idea where I'm going

And the idea of getting my head cut off scares the 4-letter word out of me.

 

[renegade pariah]

Humiliation and degradation is a slow killer of the spirit, sexual innuendo and rape is a perverse version of agression, beheading with a knife is a horrible, painful suffering that followed the anxiety of being captured, knowing you are a Jew among those that hate Jews and living with anxiety about your fate. Yes at least death is a release from hell, unlike the experience of the prisoners who live in hell for an extended period of time. The fact that Nick and 80-90% of detainees (according to American intelligence officer), are innocent of any wrongdoing must make that hell much worse. However the world is full of millions of people living in hell...hell of starvation, hell of disease, hell of neglect, hell of lack of love, hell of mental illness, hell of exploitation, hell of loneliness, hell of betrayal, hell of sinful burdens, hell of persecution....and the quality of all these things is the same, namely suffering. And there is enough suffering in the world, those who add to the suffering are only pleasing Satan. That is why it is good to pray for peace and justice and the return of Christ.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

oooooooooohhhhhh fine. I'll answer "just for fun"

I'd take the abuse cuz I have no idea where I'm going

And the idea of getting my head cut off scares the 4-letter word out of me.

People tend to place beheading above other forms of torture/death as more greusome because there's something abotu the seperation of mind and body. But face it...it's all death. When you're dead, your dead and it doesn't matter how you get there.

If I said "My grandfather died from internal bleeding after being in a car accident" People would say "Oh that poor man..." But if I say "My grandfather was beheaded with a knife/sword" people would say "That's terrible...oh I couldn't even imagine! The HORROR!"

Get the point? It's all the same.

It doesn't matter if you're beaten to death in a prison camp or beheaded by terrorists.

Give me the quick death any day.

 

[Blessed75]

And there is enough suffering in the world, those who add to the suffering are only pleasing Satan. That is why it is good to pray for peace and justice and the return of Christ.

AMEN and AMEN - thank you - your last statement really was what sealed it - thank you!

 

[Annabel Lee]

"From a distance
You look like my friend
Even though we are at war
From a distance
I just cannot comprehend
What all this fightings for

God is watching us
From a distance"

 

[Blessed75]

Gee thanks Lady - like that doesn't get the old tears flowin' -

"From a distance
You look like my friend
Even though we are at war
From a distance
I just cannot comprehend
What all this fightings for

God is watching us
From a distance"

 

[Blindfaith]

I just want to bump this, so we can compare apples to apples while we debate the value of human suffering.

Who said anyone were devalued or is that just an assumption? Don't take people's words out of the context in which they were intended.

 

[Oblivious]

If I said "My grandfather died from internal bleeding after being in a car accident" People would say "Oh that poor man..." But if I say "My grandfather was beheaded with a knife/sword" people would say "That's terrible...oh I couldn't even imagine! The HORROR!"

Big difference. A car accident is that "an accident". Beheading is not. The fact that a human being could do that to another human being is horrific.