Which forum is free?

[joshuanazar]

So apparently nondenominational is actually just another denomination. A thread was recently "moderated" because the conversation was not about the beliefs of the nondenominational doctrine. Though I do believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it has bothered me greatly that the thread was censored. I do not consider myself of any denomination, I don't even consider myself nondenominational. I am a Christian and that is it. I started posting in this forum because it has a lot in common with my views. But I am now looking for a forum where there is liberty to discuss any questions or views that people might have in order for Truth to be manifest. I do not know much about the other forums on this site, but can anyone tell me where I can find a forum that is free? Is there any on this site?

 

[joshuanazar]

Anyone have a suggestion?

 

[Tigger45]

Maybe General theology or Controversial theology forums.

 

[joshuanazar]

But it would be a very sad day when the truth is labeled as controversial. Why must there be censorship on a forum that should be dedicated to liberty and truth?

 

[BryanW92]

The foundation of orthodox Christianity is based on the idea of the Trinity. Even though the word does not appear in the bible, scripture does describe the Trinity. The non-trinitarians can point to some scripture to support their view, but this is 1800 years worth of well-argued and settled theology. Non-denominational does not mean "Christianity that can believe anything". There is still religious canon that has survived councils, schisms, and reformations. If we don't rally around something, what do we even have to discuss? Yes, you will say "we rally around Christ". I agree. But the Jesus of the Trinity is a much different being that the Jesus of the Unitarian. This forum has chosen to rally around the Jesus of the Trinity. Its not a restriction of liberty. It is merely an acknowledgement of something that we hold to be true. The Trinitarian vs non-Trinitarian argument is essentially an argument between truth and a lie, and the side that believes the lie demands that we give it equal weight.

That doesn't turn the non-denoms into a denomination. It just gives them common ground on which to stand.

 

[BryanW92]

Having set statements of faith and then expecting people to conform to those statements or leave, makes it a denomination. I believe in the Jesus of the Godhead, but I want the liberty to discuss it when someone else comes in who doesn't. In the thread that I was talking about there was about three people not including me that was discussing this topic. One seemed to not believe in the Jesus of the Godhead, but then he said something that made me realize that he did believe it and that the discussion was based on a misunderstanding. Before this misunderstanding could be cleared up the thread was "cleaned up" and the posts deleted. Peace was so close...

I didn't read that in Kutte's remarks. He was dug in and ready to defend his position. Yes, he had a misunderstanding, but he was defending that misunderstanding.

I agree with you about the set statements of faith, etc. It does make a church a denomination, but EVERY church either has a set statement of faith or it is either a one-person church (which still has a set statement of faith, even if it isn't written down) or it is a social club where everyone can bring in their own beliefs and everyone accepts it because in a church that doesn't stand for certain things, it will fall for anything.

But, for the purposes of CF, "non-denominational" means that a church does not answer to a higher assembly council, conference, etc. We can still have a fixed set of core beliefs (e.g. the Trinity is a core belief, but the mode of baptism is not) and not be a denomination.

 

[joshuanazar]

I didn't read that in Kutte's remarks. He was dug in and ready to defend his position. Yes, he had a misunderstanding, but he was defending that misunderstanding.

I agree with you about the set statements of faith, etc. It does make a church a denomination, but EVERY church either has a set statement of faith or it is either a one-person church (which still has a set statement of faith, even if it isn't written down) or it is a social club where everyone can bring in their own beliefs and everyone accepts it because in a church that doesn't stand for certain things, it will fall for anything.

But, for the purposes of CF, "non-denominational" means that a church does not answer to a higher assembly council, conference, etc. We can still have a fixed set of core beliefs (e.g. the Trinity is a core belief, but the mode of baptism is not) and not be a denomination.

I wrote a post about I can see God taking on the form of man to fire for my sin and that I can also see the Father, Son, and Spirit as three separate beings but one God. The user in question then quoted my post and agreed with it.