Which Evolutions will make me rich?

[Gottservant]

Hi there,

Just curious, which Evolutions will make me rich?

Is there a principle which describes these Evolutions? And is it necessarily still survival of the fittest?

Thanks.

 

[stevevw]

Ive always understood evolution as a creature changing so that they will survive. So whatever that happens to be that is what the creature will do, fit into and become. But with humans we have this added dimension of morality. Yet you would think that if it comes down to a matter of survival that putting others first would be second place. So if it meant having more money to buy a life style or get food then people would think of themselves first. Thats how I would imagine evolution to work with money because its suppose to be an uncaring process.

 

[Gottservant]

The flourishing of the weak outcompetes, the assertions of the strong (selah)

 

[stevevw]

The teachings of Jesus wouldn't fair well for evolution and the survival of the fittest.

Matthew 5
3"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
7Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
1 Corinthians 1:27
But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;

 

[DogmaHunter]

Ive always understood evolution as a creature changing so that they will survive. So whatever that happens to be that is what the creature will do, fit into and become. But with humans we have this added dimension of morality. Yet you would think that if it comes down to a matter of survival that putting others first would be second place. So if it meant having more money to buy a life style or get food then people would think of themselves first. Thats how I would imagine evolution to work with money because its suppose to be an uncaring process.

Morality is an evolved trait and humans are not the only social species which has general "rules of conduct" when participating within the group - with consequences if you break these "rules".

There's no "added dimension". It's all simply part of being human.
Just like following the leadership of the pack leader is simply part of being a wolf.

A society where people take care of eachother instead of only of themselves will thrive better then those that don't.

Individuals don't evolve - populations do.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The teachings of Jesus wouldn't fair well for evolution and the survival of the fittest.

Again, "fit" in context of evolution DOES NOT MEAN "strong" or "not weak".

Individuals don't evolve, populations evolve.

A society where people help eachother works better then a society where it is "every man for himself".
One survives better and easier in a working society compared to a society that doesn't work well. Derp.

Your posts expose a deep ignorance on how evolution actually works.

 

[stevevw]

Morality is an evolved trait and humans are not the only social species which has general "rules of conduct" when participating within the group - with consequences if you break these "rules".

There's no "added dimension". It's all simply part of being human.
Just like following the leadership of the pack leader is simply part of being a wolf.

A society where people take care of eachother instead of only of themselves will thrive better then those that don't.

Individuals don't evolve - populations do.

Evolutionists dont believe in Gods morality so there will be no extra dimension. But to a believer in God there is this extra dimension of spirituality. Without it we are not complete. To only look after the physical and mental will neglect ourselves holistically and this will have an effect on the other dimensions of the physical and mental. Believing in man made morality has its limits and downfalls and will always have consequences that will lead to our ruin. We are infallible and therefore cant know what is best so in the end we destroy ourselves. Whereas an independent set of morals from a God who is all knowing and without sin is the best way for us to live.

Following the wolf pack mentality is done by power and control. The alpha male is dominate and is challenged. The rest follow in submission and there is no equality. An evolved morality that bases itself on biology and chemical reactions in a heartless universe that has no justice can also be cruel. If there are to many people to be fed that it threatens the survival of others then humans become expendable. If there is no true morality and accountability to God then a person can get away with anything and never be held responsible.

We can see this happening in the world with the rich getting richer and a mass of people in poverty. Over half the world is in poverty. If we really had a caring attitude then the haves would give up some of their stuff and share it with others. If we did that then no one would go hungry. But people in the developed nations dont want to give up their comfy lifestyles and would rather throw away tons of food than see to it that others dont die of hunger. That in itself shows the mentality of evolution in survival of the fittest.

 

[stevevw]

Again, "fit" in context of evolution DOES NOT MEAN "strong" or "not weak".

Individuals don't evolve, populations evolve.

Then entire populations of certain countries will survive more than others such as with the poor nations or disadvantaged races or people who get left behind.

A society where people help each other works better then a society where it is "every man for himself".

That would be the ideal of evolution. But in reality it doesn't work out that way. As we see with the haves and have nots. Those with health insurance and those without, those with a job and those without, those with food and those without. The nature of modern day secular commercialism puts profits before people.

One survives better and easier in a working society compared to a society that doesn't work well. Derp.

Well I guess what we are seeing is more of our societies not working and a smaller group who are surviving quite nicely. What evolution is not considering is that for all the nice things that it likes to promote as ways of addressing morality is that humans have an evil side. They dont address this because they dont acknowledge our spiritual side. We are all sinners and born in sin. We cannot defeat sin without Jesus. So there is an inclination for humans to do evil no matter how much people try to make a nice cooperative society that is caring for everyone. We are basically selfish and put ourselves first.

Your posts expose a deep ignorance on how evolution actually works.

No they address the reality of things not the ideals of a made up theory. So if evolution is so caring for the group, the world why do we do everything to destroy all the other species on the planet and allow many to die in hunger. Why do we allow our planet to be destroyed by our actions of selfish greed and leave a worse planet for our children. If its about survival why are we the only species who are doing everything to destroy the very environment we and other species need so much top continue to evolve. Evolution has created a monster.