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Yes, the Lord called feastsl His sabbatons, while the 7th day (weekly cycle)the Sabbath.Again do you really think Passover was a Festival annual Sabbath???
count 50 days from the morrow after the seventh sabbath backwards and tell me what day do you come to?15And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
16Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
visionary said:The kind of work prohibited on the Sabbath and the annual festivals has been defined in the Bible. The weekly Sabbath is a day when all work is prohibited (Lev.23:3). The annual festivals, except for the Day of Atonement, are days when 'professional work' (the means by which one makes a living) is prohibited (Lev.23:7-8, 21, 25, 35-36).
visionary said:Yes, the Lord called feastsl His sabbatons, while the 7th day (weekly cycle)the Sabbath.
Now I want you to do something for me.....
count 50 days from the morrow after the seventh sabbath backwards and tell me what day do you come to?
visionary said:What I was getting at that if you count backwards from the "morrow after the seventh sabbath" there would be no confusion as to what day fo the week the start (first fruits) and finish (penticost) of the countng of the omer is. The seventh sabbath can only be tied to weekly sabbath, thereby solving the issue.
visionary said:I have also noticed that Joshua never mentioned the sabbath. Joshua never mentioned the weekly sabbath when the did their Passover and first fruits of Joshua 5:10-12. Of course, I also noticed that Joshua never mentioned the sabbath with the fall of Jericho either. It could be just Joshua's writting style.
visionary said:I have also noticed that Joshua never mentioned the sabbath. Joshua never mentioned the weekly sabbath when the did their Passover and first fruits of Joshua 5:10-12. Of course, I also noticed that Joshua never mentioned the sabbath with the fall of Jericho either. It could be just Joshua's writting style.
No I do not think it was important for Joshua to mention the sabbath, for the focus was not on teaching us about sabbath keeping but about, 1.) time frame for entering the promise land (tying it with the spring feasts), and 2.) in Jericho (the walls coming down.) Israel during the six day war in our generation, fought for their rights, and still keep mindful of the sabbath.Cliff2 said:Do you think it was necessary for him to mention the Sabbath.
In the book of Esther I do not think the word God is mentioned.
Acts 13:42
And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Acts 13:44
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
visionary said:No I do not think it was important for Joshua to mention the sabbath, for the focus was not on teaching us about sabbath keeping but about, 1.) time frame for entering the promise land (tying it with the spring feasts), and 2.) in Jericho (the walls coming down.) Israel during the six day war in our generation, fought for their rights, and still keep mindful of the sabbath.
It is like the new testament, where since sabbath was as it was before the death and ressurrection of Christ, so there was no mention of the change of days to worhsip. it was not a issue that it is today. Even the gentiles accept that.... and waited until the next sabbath. No mention of sunday gather here.
If there was a change, and where there were changes, you will find them in the writtings of Paul, and in Hebrews where there was a change in the priesthood, the temple and it service, the understanding of the spirit of the law, and least important are the traditions of men, to name a few. But there are no scriptures that get into any change of the day of worship.
Sunday keeping would create an uproar in the Jewish community from which this message would have been first proclaimed. If you thought Yeshua was rejected before, if sunday worship is truth, He would have been thrown out even faster. The uproar over sunday keeping and sabbath of old would have been in all over the new testament, It is too significant not to be mentioned.
But it is not mentioned, there was no controversy over this issue. Every statement you find that it is used for sunday and sabbath arguments in the new testament are truly just references to time, season, and place. Since it never left the jewish setting established since Mount Sinai, it was not the focal point of any discussion of any of the apostles letters, or any writtings that any historial document outside of scripture. If God planned this, he would have prophecied it to be coming when Yeshua came. If Yeshua wanted it, He would have intstructed the disciples on it. Worship is too significant to not be addressed by the Holy One of Israel when He walked the earth as God in the Flesh. Every God had its day and the Holy One of Israel was known to have the Sabbath, in fact, He said, He was Lord of the Sabbath, identifying Himself with that time blessed and santified from creation and redemption from Egypt. Why did He not say something them, when He had the chance, about the changes He was going to make regarding the sabbath. The religious leaders were making sabbath keeping styles an issue. He could of pointed out prophecies in scriptures of the change, He could have shown them their errors regarding the day, but all he did is show them their tradition theology in keeping it was not in a loving and caring manner God would be happy with. Sounds like fine tuning what they already have, not a overthrow of what was established on Mount Sinai.
No evidence can bring forth until the 3rd century when political correctness of roman theology dictated it to be so. A little evidence of sunday keeping can be shown in the second century, but nothing before 100 AD. The writtings have been researched for centuries and it just has not been found. It is not there. So with the roman and greek eyes, the scriptures are re-interpretated to mean something that is not there. If the scriptures are understood from the Jewish perspective that the jewish writers wrote it in, the true flavor of what is written come forth.
It is impossible for Sunday to be a New Christian day of observance because for sunday to be a new day of christian observnce Sunday would have to given before Christ's death. You cannot change a will or covenant after it has been confirmed.
Which Day of the Week is the Sabbath?
Cliff2 said:Has anyone come up with an answer yet?
I hope it is Biblical as the Bible tells us the Sabbath is on the 7th day of the week.
Working it out is relatively easy. Accepting it--now that's hard.Cliff2 said:Looks like it is too hard to work out.
jochanaan said:Working it out is relatively easy. Accepting it--now that's hard.
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