Which baptism is the "one baptism" of Christianity?

[TLSITD]

Ephesians 4:4-6 reads

There is one body and one Spirit---just as you were called to one hope when you were called---one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And in Luke 3:16 John the baptizer says,
"I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

I think most non-Catholics would agree that water baptism doesn't save a person and that it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit that saves one, which spiritual baptism every believer receives when he or she is born again (having been buried with Him in baptism and raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead. Colossians 2:12) .

What then is the purpose of water baptism? For Jews it was a symbolic ritual representing a desire for a good conscience toward God and repentance from sins. Jesus' disciples and the early Christians practiced the same ritual. Yet we have no instructions in the NT for how to water baptize or any command to perform or partake in the ritual.

Some believe that Christ sent the apostles to baptize people with water as a part of their evangelistic commission. But if there is only one baptism that saves, why would He? The two are obviously not one and the same.

The apostle Paul water baptized a few people, but he said that Christ did not send him to baptize but rather to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:13-17), through which those who hear and believe are baptized by the Spirit.

Why would the man who was arguably the greatest apostle not have been sent by Christ to water baptize if water baptism was an important or necessary part of Christianity, and if Jesus had indeed sent His other apostles to water baptize?

I am one Christian who believes that water baptism is an obsolete Jewish ritual that was carried over into Christianity for a time in the early days of the faith for its symbolic spiritual significance but which God didn't intend for Christians to continue and which is not necessary or important to administer or to partake in.

 

[klutedavid]

Ephesians 4:4-6 reads

There is one body and one Spirit---just as you were called to one hope when you were called---one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And in Luke 3:16 John the baptizer says,
"I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

I think most non-Catholics would agree that water baptism doesn't save a person and that it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit that saves one, which spiritual baptism every believer receives when he or she is born again (having been buried with Him in baptism and raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead. Colossians 2:12) .

What then is the purpose of water baptism? For Jews it was a symbolic ritual representing a desire for a good conscience toward God and repentance from sins. Jesus' disciples and the early Christians practiced the same ritual. Yet we have no instructions in the NT for how to water baptize or any command to perform or partake in the ritual.

Some believe that Christ sent the apostles to baptize people with water as a part of their evangelistic commission. But if there is only one baptism that saves, why would He? The two are obviously not one and the same.

The apostle Paul water baptized a few people, but he said that Christ did not send him to baptize but rather to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:13-17), through which those who hear and believe are baptized by the Spirit.

Why would the man who was arguably the greatest apostle not have been sent by Christ to water baptize if water baptism was an important or necessary part of Christianity, and if Jesus had indeed sent His other apostles to water baptize?

I am one Christian who believes that water baptism is an obsolete Jewish ritual that was carried over into Christianity for a time in the early days of the faith for its symbolic spiritual significance but which God didn't intend for Christians to continue and which is not necessary or important to administer or to partake in.

John's baptism was the shadow baptism that was fulfilled with the baptism in the Holy Spirit.

 

[Radagast]

The apostle Paul water baptized a few people, but he said that Christ did not send him to baptize but rather to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:13-17), through which those who hear and believe are baptized by the Spirit.

He says that other people did the baptism.

I am one Christian who believes that water baptism is an obsolete Jewish ritual that was carried over into Christianity for a time in the early days of the faith for its symbolic spiritual significance but which God didn't intend for Christians to continue and which is not necessary or important to administer or to partake in.

Jesus told us to do it: Matthew 28:19.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Ephesians 4:4-6 reads

There is one body and one Spirit---just as you were called to one hope when you were called---one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And in Luke 3:16 John the baptizer says,
"I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

I think most non-Catholics would agree that water baptism doesn't save a person and that it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit that saves one, which spiritual baptism every believer receives when he or she is born again (having been buried with Him in baptism and raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead. Colossians 2:12) .

What then is the purpose of water baptism? For Jews it was a symbolic ritual representing a desire for a good conscience toward God and repentance from sins. Jesus' disciples and the early Christians practiced the same ritual. Yet we have no instructions in the NT for how to water baptize or any command to perform or partake in the ritual.

Some believe that Christ sent the apostles to baptize people with water as a part of their evangelistic commission. But if there is only one baptism that saves, why would He? The two are obviously not one and the same.

The apostle Paul water baptized a few people, but he said that Christ did not send him to baptize but rather to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:13-17), through which those who hear and believe are baptized by the Spirit.

Why would the man who was arguably the greatest apostle not have been sent by Christ to water baptize if water baptism was an important or necessary part of Christianity, and if Jesus had indeed sent His other apostles to water baptize?

I am one Christian who believes that water baptism is an obsolete Jewish ritual that was carried over into Christianity for a time in the early days of the faith for its symbolic spiritual significance but which God didn't intend for Christians to continue and which is not necessary or important to administer or to partake in.

The one baptism of Ephesians 4 is the Sacrament of Christian Baptism, which is always done using water in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit in accordance with the word and command of Jesus Christ. Through Baptism we are born again of God, receive the Holy Spirit, the forgiveness of sins, are joined together to Jesus Christ, His death and resurrection, having been buried with Him, clothed with Him. All these things being the glorious work of God alone, for us, that we might, by the grace of God alone, through faith, receive and be appropriated to us the perfect, finished, once-and-for-all atoning work of Jesus Christ.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[com7fy8]

Our Apostle Paul says we were

"baptized into His death"

in Romans 6:3.

And I personally understand that at the time of repenting we became baptized into Jesus.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Ephesians 4:4-6 reads

There is one body and one Spirit---just as you were called to one hope when you were called---one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And in Luke 3:16 John the baptizer says,
"I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

I think most non-Catholics would agree that water baptism doesn't save a person and that it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit that saves one, which spiritual baptism every believer receives when he or she is born again (having been buried with Him in baptism and raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead. Colossians 2:12) .

What then is the purpose of water baptism? For Jews it was a symbolic ritual representing a desire for a good conscience toward God and repentance from sins. Jesus' disciples and the early Christians practiced the same ritual. Yet we have no instructions in the NT for how to water baptize or any command to perform or partake in the ritual.

Some believe that Christ sent the apostles to baptize people with water as a part of their evangelistic commission. But if there is only one baptism that saves, why would He? The two are obviously not one and the same.

The apostle Paul water baptized a few people, but he said that Christ did not send him to baptize but rather to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:13-17), through which those who hear and believe are baptized by the Spirit.

Why would the man who was arguably the greatest apostle not have been sent by Christ to water baptize if water baptism was an important or necessary part of Christianity, and if Jesus had indeed sent His other apostles to water baptize?

I am one Christian who believes that water baptism is an obsolete Jewish ritual that was carried over into Christianity for a time in the early days of the faith for its symbolic spiritual significance but which God didn't intend for Christians to continue and which is not necessary or important to administer or to partake in.

If you are water baptized only, you are not in the Kingdom of God. If you are Holy Spirit Baptized then you are in His Kingdom aka the Body of Christ. If you have both, then there is no argument no matter what denomination you are in.
Be blessed and stay healthy!

 

[Guojing]

He says that other people did the baptism.



Jesus told us to do it: Matthew 28:19.

If you believed Matthew 28 is for you, he also told you to teach obedience to all he commanded to do.

And if you read the entire gospel account in Matthew, it included obedience to the Law of Moses. (Mattthew 5:17-19)

 

[Radagast]

If you believed Matthew 28 is for you, he also told you to teach obedience to all he commanded to do.

Correct.

And if you read the entire gospel account in Matthew, it included obedience to the Law of Moses.

Wrong.

 

[Guojing]

Correct.



Wrong.

I already quoted Matthew 5:17-19.

The resurrected Christ did not reveal to the 12 at anytime that the Law of Moses was no longer valid.

 

[Tra Phull]

I have both, and I still get in a lot of arguments.

In Hebrews 6:2, BAPTISMS is rendered plural in many versions, and I don't know if that is a reference to John's vs Spirit Baptism or not.

I don't think obedience to Law of Moses is still in effect.

I eat shrimp and crawfish and ham. I have never boiled a young goat in it's mother's milk, but would not consider it a sin.

 

[charsan]

I myself believe Baptism is efficacious unto Salvation, so the one Baptism is Water Baptism. As the Lord says in Mark 16:16 "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned." GNT. Without Baptism one can not be saved

 

[Elisha McFarland]

Regardless of which baptism it is (infant or salvation-based, I believe in the latter), baptism is an extremely NT concept and is most certainly in affect today, for good reason.

 

[Tra Phull]

I have no independent recollection of my infant baptism in Methodist Church.

I chose to be immersed at 19.

A year later I got baptism in Holy Spirit.

 

[pescador]

If you are water baptized only, you are not in the Kingdom of God. If you are Holy Spirit Baptized then you are in His Kingdom aka the Body of Christ. If you have both, then there is no argument no matter what denomination you are in.
Be blessed and stay healthy!

While I agree that if you are water baptized only, you are not in the Kingdom of God. Water baptism is a symbolic act that means that you have died to your old way of life and emerged as a new person in Christ.

 

[TLSITD]

While I agree that if you are water baptized only, you are not in the Kingdom of God. Water baptism is a symbolic act that means that you have died to your old way of life and emerged as a new person in Christ.

I understand the symbolism. My point was only about the relevance and necessity of water baptism as a part of Christian practice according to NT doctrine.

I don't personally have any objection to people getting water baptized for the reason you mentioned, and I don't believe that God does either.

 

[Radagast]

I myself believe Baptism is efficacious unto Salvation, so the one Baptism is Water Baptism. As the Lord says in Mark 16:16 "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned." GNT. Without Baptism one can not be saved

Certainly this passage raises a very grave question over the salvation of those who refuse to be baptised.

 

[klutedavid]

If you believed Matthew 28 is for you, he also told you to teach obedience to all he commanded to do.

And if you read the entire gospel account in Matthew, it included obedience to the Law of Moses. (Mattthew 5:17-19)

Which means circumcision is included in that case.

Gentiles were never under the law of Moses and never will be under the law of Moses. That is why Gentiles are not circumcised.

 

[klutedavid]

Certainly this passage raises a very grave question over the salvation of those who refuse to be baptised.

1 Peter 3:21
Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

 

[Aussie Pete]

Ephesians 4:4-6 reads

There is one body and one Spirit---just as you were called to one hope when you were called---one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And in Luke 3:16 John the baptizer says,
"I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

I think most non-Catholics would agree that water baptism doesn't save a person and that it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit that saves one, which spiritual baptism every believer receives when he or she is born again (having been buried with Him in baptism and raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead. Colossians 2:12) .

What then is the purpose of water baptism? For Jews it was a symbolic ritual representing a desire for a good conscience toward God and repentance from sins. Jesus' disciples and the early Christians practiced the same ritual. Yet we have no instructions in the NT for how to water baptize or any command to perform or partake in the ritual.

Some believe that Christ sent the apostles to baptize people with water as a part of their evangelistic commission. But if there is only one baptism that saves, why would He? The two are obviously not one and the same.

The apostle Paul water baptized a few people, but he said that Christ did not send him to baptize but rather to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:13-17), through which those who hear and believe are baptized by the Spirit.

Why would the man who was arguably the greatest apostle not have been sent by Christ to water baptize if water baptism was an important or necessary part of Christianity, and if Jesus had indeed sent His other apostles to water baptize?

I am one Christian who believes that water baptism is an obsolete Jewish ritual that was carried over into Christianity for a time in the early days of the faith for its symbolic spiritual significance but which God didn't intend for Christians to continue and which is not necessary or important to administer or to partake in.

Water baptism is not essential for the experience of being born again. Not being baptised won't send you to hell. However, it has great spiritual value. You will find no occasion where the gospel was preached without the new believers being baptised. The word "baptise" literally means to immerse.

The Christian life is not just forgiveness of sin. It is new life. The cross kills the old life that we receive from Adam. What do you do with a dead person? You bury them. That is what baptism signifies. When we rise from the water, it represents arising from the grave. We are declaring that we have passed from death to new life. It is an outward confession of an inward experience.

 

[Radagast]

You will find no occasion where the gospel was preached without the new believers being baptised.

Because Jesus commanded it. Part of following Jesus is to obey His commands.