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Andy Broadley

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Well, after a short delay, we finally managed to get to the Grimsby Baptist church this morning.

Hard to be objective on the basis of one service but it seems that we may have found our 'home' and the place that the Lord wants us to be.

We will certainly be there again next Sunday.
 
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Hard to be objective on the basis of one service but it seems that we may have found our 'home' and the place that the Lord wants us to be.
May I ask what their salvation doctrine is?

If someone goes in looking for it, do you know if they get what they need or not?

Ther certainly did in Acts when the apostles presented their message!
 
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May I ask what their salvation doctrine is?

If someone goes in looking for it, do you know if they get what they need or not?

Ther certainly did in Acts when the apostles presented their message!

We sat together and examined their doctrines and they are almost spot on the same as both laura's and mine. Actually they ARE the same as Laura's. The differences, such as there are, are around the Salvation Army's position on the sacrements
 
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We sat together and examined their doctrines and they are almost spot on the same as both laura's and mine. Actually they ARE the same as Laura's. The differences, such as there are, are around the Salvation Army's position on the sacrements
OK, what's Laura's salvation doctrine, what must I do to know I have received salvation?
 
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OK, what's Laura's salvation doctrine, what must I do to know I have received salvation?


Matey...I've had three hours sleep in 48 hours (you have to do that sort of thing if you are forced to work Sundays). Now is not the best time for me to discuss theology

Hang on a minute while I go find something
 
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OK, so someone seeking their salvation will be told to believe that Jesus is their only saviour, if they agree they will be commanded to be baptised, then to believe in . .

[/FONT]"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The necessity of the work of the Holy Spirit to bring about the new birth and to enable the believer to live a new life"

Is that correct?

It just seems a bit woolly on the Holy Spirit, believing he needs to work to bring about new birth does not mean you have the new birth, does it?
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]OK, so someone seeking their salvation will be told to believe that Jesus is their only saviour, if they agree they will be commanded to be baptised, then to believe in . . [/FONT]

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The necessity of the work of the Holy Spirit to bring about the new birth and to enable the believer to live a new life"[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Is that correct?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It just seems a bit woolly on the Holy Spirit, believing he needs to work to bring about new birth does not mean you have the new birth, does it?[/FONT]


My dear friend. PLease go and read the 3 hours sleep bit again

Right now yo could tell me the moon was made of green cheese and I'd agree with you
 
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All Talk, I think you need a nap too. This is a thread where a family asked for support in finding a church. The Baptist denomination has a long-standing reputation for preaching the gospel message.


Thanks heron:) :hug:
 
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All Talk, I think you need a nap too. This is a thread where a family asked for support in finding a church.
Actually it's where should we worship?

Like in the OT the israelites began to worship wherever and however suited them, God told them, through his prophets that they were committing adultery.

The Baptist denomination has a long-standing reputation for preaching the gospel message.
That's like 100 Nazis saying Hitler's a good man.

We need to do as I am trying to do and see if "churches" are actually sticking to what the bible clearly shows about the receiving of the Spirit - all knew precisely when they received! The fact that they talk about Him means didly squat.
Please wake up and wise up.
 
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That's like 100 Nazis saying Hitler's a good man.

We need to do as I am trying to do and see if "churches" are actually sticking to what the bible clearly shows about the receiving of the Spirit. The fact that they talk about Him means didly squat.

But perhaps the point was that the OP asked for help in finding a church according to the guidelines the author of the OP gave us. It was not an invitation for us to evaluate other factors for her such as which churches any of us think adhere most closely to Bible truth.
 
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But perhaps the point was that the OP asked for help in finding a church according to the guidelines the author of the OP gave us. It was not an invitation for us to evaluate other factors for her such as which churches any of us think adhere most closely to Bible truth.
Perhaps, I've pointed to what suits God, the bible way, they must decide whether they feel more comfortable fitting into that or some sort of compromise to fit their different backgrounds.
 
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But perhaps the point was that the OP asked for help in finding a church according to the guidelines the author of the OP gave us. It was not an invitation for us to evaluate other factors for her such as which churches any of us think adhere most closely to Bible truth.


The point was that we were looking for a church that fulfilled three basic requirements for us.

1) Doctrine. Laura and I had already sat down together and looked at the doctrine of the two churches that we had come from (a non denom for Laura and the Salvation Army for me). We had agreement in almost all areas, with the exception of the sacrements, which the Army does not practice. Even there though that was not an issue as I am in no way opposed to them, and take great blessing and comfort from communion when I am able to partake. It is, however, very important to Laura so it was essential that we find a church where the sacrements were a central part of doictrine and worship.

However, therin lay another issue withjin an issue. I have not been Baptised and do not feel that my salvation is impinged by that (down boys...that was not an invitation to debate;) ). I would, however' like to be able to partake of communion, so we needed a church where all are welcome, without exception, at communion.

The Baptist church we have started attending does not make Baptism a prerequisite to Communion, although obviously they would class it as preferable. To be honest, although I do not see it as a requirement of salvation, I am starting to feel that perhaps I would like to be Baptised, but thats a seperate issue to all of this.

So, we already knew that our doctrinal beliefs were the same, which meant that were not faced with trying to find a church that was a doctrinal compromise, and we were quickly able to assertain that the doctrines of Grimsby baptist church mirrored our own. That fulfilled the first, and by far the most important, requirement for us.

2) The second requirement we had was around worship style. That was an area where our previous churches did differ very greatly. Laura's former church was very modern and had a very relaxed style of worship, whereas I was from a much more structured background with the Army.

Grimsby Baptist church seems to meet both of ur needs in this area, in that it has a good mix of the contempory and traditional worship. We had already attended a church that was almost identical in style to the one Laura had been at, and I felt completely lost. Likewise for her when we went to the Army. On Sunday though, we both felt relaxed and comfortable with the style of worship, as well as with the church itself.

3) Finally, we needed a church that had a good youth section for our 13 yr old daughter. Us walking into GBP on Sunday morning did not bring the average age on the congregation down by 20 years:D .

Plenty of families and younger people there, and a good range of youth activities.

So, although it's hard to make and objective assessment from one visit, it does seem, at themoment, as though the Lord has led us to where we belong.
 
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