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Where is your evidence creationists?
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<blockquote data-quote="USincognito" data-source="post: 59492615" data-attributes="member: 21511"><p>Ah, so when backed into a corner a typical "handy dandy evolution refuter" Creationist tries to change the subject. Plus you ignored the answer I provided for you in the very post you quoted.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So God is the first cause. Now what? What aruments do you have against the Big Bang, deep time and evolution that withstand scrutiny?</p><p></p><p> Alright dancer. God was the first cause of the universe 13 billion years ago setting things in motion that led to neucleosynthesis and the earliest stars. Some of them went supernova creating heavy elements and spreading them amongst the cosmos. Some of the primordial hydrogen and heavier elements coalesced into a disk about 5 billion years ago leading to the birth of the sun and eventually the earth. About 3.5 billion years ago the first life appeared on earth and it has been evolving ever since.</p><p></p><p>Now what? You want to discuss the evolution that has occured over the last 3.5 billion years or do you want to appeal to the God of the Gaps and stick with abiogenesis and the Big Bang. If the latter, you're not arguing against science, evolution, "Darwinism" or anything else. You're merely arguing against atheism and need to stick to philiosophy and metaphysics rather than jump into the scientific debate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First off, I didn't tell you what you can or cannot do and second, I will always tells you what you can or cannot do if I so choose. CF is still a free speech zone in that regard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /> I addressed every one of your points that actually concerned evolution and debunked them one by one. Though, to be honest, since you were just parrotting stuff you'd read and cut and pasted from Creationist sources, technically I wasn't "addressing you". And listen, this is from a long time member here - please don't try and play the expert card. There are a number of scientists - some working scientists - who post here and <strong>not one of them</strong> is a Creationist. The majority seem to be TEs (and that makes me happy). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Apparently, that I have a better grasp on the Crevo debate and it's particulars than you do, but perhaps some of our resident scientists can weigh in and decide that for themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="USincognito, post: 59492615, member: 21511"] Ah, so when backed into a corner a typical "handy dandy evolution refuter" Creationist tries to change the subject. Plus you ignored the answer I provided for you in the very post you quoted. So God is the first cause. Now what? What aruments do you have against the Big Bang, deep time and evolution that withstand scrutiny? Alright dancer. God was the first cause of the universe 13 billion years ago setting things in motion that led to neucleosynthesis and the earliest stars. Some of them went supernova creating heavy elements and spreading them amongst the cosmos. Some of the primordial hydrogen and heavier elements coalesced into a disk about 5 billion years ago leading to the birth of the sun and eventually the earth. About 3.5 billion years ago the first life appeared on earth and it has been evolving ever since. Now what? You want to discuss the evolution that has occured over the last 3.5 billion years or do you want to appeal to the God of the Gaps and stick with abiogenesis and the Big Bang. If the latter, you're not arguing against science, evolution, "Darwinism" or anything else. You're merely arguing against atheism and need to stick to philiosophy and metaphysics rather than jump into the scientific debate. First off, I didn't tell you what you can or cannot do and second, I will always tells you what you can or cannot do if I so choose. CF is still a free speech zone in that regard. What? :confused: I addressed every one of your points that actually concerned evolution and debunked them one by one. Though, to be honest, since you were just parrotting stuff you'd read and cut and pasted from Creationist sources, technically I wasn't "addressing you". And listen, this is from a long time member here - please don't try and play the expert card. There are a number of scientists - some working scientists - who post here and [b]not one of them[/b] is a Creationist. The majority seem to be TEs (and that makes me happy). Apparently, that I have a better grasp on the Crevo debate and it's particulars than you do, but perhaps some of our resident scientists can weigh in and decide that for themselves. [/QUOTE]
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