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Where is your evidence creationists?
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<blockquote data-quote="Wiccan_Child" data-source="post: 59462054" data-attributes="member: 104966"><p>Your premise is flawed: atheism is the stance whereby one is not a theist. A theist is one who affirms the existence of deities, and, thus, an atheist is one who <em>doesn't</em> affirm the existence of deities. The atheist can be someone who actively affirms that deities don't exist, <strong>or</strong> someone who affirms neither the existence nor the non-existence of deities - in both cases, the person is not a theist, and therefore qualifiers for the moniker of 'atheist'.</p><p></p><p>What you are arguing against is what's called <em>Strong</em> Atheism - the position that deities do not, in fact, exist. You can accuse them of having faith and of having no evidence for their claims (the irony of such an accusation notwithstanding), but don't fall into the equivocation trap: not everyone who's an atheist affirms that deities don't exist.</p><p></p><p>And even if you hold some minority definition of atheism, it still remains that the vast majority of those who <em>call</em> themselves atheists use the above vocabulary, and moreover would specify themselves as <em>Weak</em> Atheists (that is, those who neither assert God exists, nor that he doesn't) - therefore, demanding proof for the non-existence of God from a self-professed atheist is only going to bemuse the atheist: odds are, they don't, in fact, assert God doesn't exist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wiccan_Child, post: 59462054, member: 104966"] Your premise is flawed: atheism is the stance whereby one is not a theist. A theist is one who affirms the existence of deities, and, thus, an atheist is one who [I]doesn't[/I] affirm the existence of deities. The atheist can be someone who actively affirms that deities don't exist, [B]or[/B] someone who affirms neither the existence nor the non-existence of deities - in both cases, the person is not a theist, and therefore qualifiers for the moniker of 'atheist'. What you are arguing against is what's called [I]Strong[/I] Atheism - the position that deities do not, in fact, exist. You can accuse them of having faith and of having no evidence for their claims (the irony of such an accusation notwithstanding), but don't fall into the equivocation trap: not everyone who's an atheist affirms that deities don't exist. And even if you hold some minority definition of atheism, it still remains that the vast majority of those who [I]call[/I] themselves atheists use the above vocabulary, and moreover would specify themselves as [I]Weak[/I] Atheists (that is, those who neither assert God exists, nor that he doesn't) - therefore, demanding proof for the non-existence of God from a self-professed atheist is only going to bemuse the atheist: odds are, they don't, in fact, assert God doesn't exist. [/QUOTE]
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