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If one sees "others" as "themself", then one must be objective to apply it. If you only see "you" then you can only see subjectively. I've read enough of your posts for me to know that you see others. I disagree that you only see subjective in it according to your own words.Also, your thing of what constitutes objrvvtibe morality' i see only subjective in it.
Ive yet to see any example of objective morality .
If one sees "others" as "themself", then one must be objective to apply it. If you only see "you" then you can only see subjectively. I've read enough of your posts for me to know that you see others. I disagree that you only see subjective in it according to your own words.
Objective morality:Identify some general rules of objective morality?
I don't think we have come to terms which is why there is a disconnect. To be objective one must become others. You must become me to understand me and I must become you to understand you. Kindness is an example of objective morality. Mutual trust is an example of objective morality.Sorry but after reading this over, i can make no sense of it.
I can tell though that no example of objective moraity was provided.
I don't think we have come to terms which is why there is a disconnect. To be objective one must become others. You must become me to understand me and I must become you to understand you. Kindness is an example of objective morality.
Of course not. Which terms do you see as made up by me?We sure wont cone to terms if you make incomprehensible
ststemrnrs, set impossible terms and invent your own
definitions.
Yes in all honesty and sincerity I do not.You honest to goodness dont know?
We sure wont cone to terms if you make incomprehensible
ststemrnrs, set impossible terms and invent your own
definitions.
objective"To be objective..." -made up
"Become the other" -impossible
Of course not. But that does not make the attribute of kindness bad. For example, Hitler was unkind to the Jewish people. Unkindness was in Hitler. Had he been kind he would have not hurt people.Would being kind to Hitler at the height of his power be
objectively moral?
objective
adjective
ob·jec·tive | \ əb-ˈjek-tiv , äb- \
Essential Meaning of objective
1: based on facts rather than feelings or opinions. We need someone outside the company to give us an objective analysis.: not influenced by feelings Scientists must be objective. It's hard to be objective [=fair, unbiased] about my own family.
2philosophy : existing outside of the mind : existing in the real world objective reality
em·pa·thy
/ˈempəTHē/
noun
When I wept for you, I became you.
- the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
Of course not. But that does not make the attribute of kindness bad. For example, Hitler was unkind to the Jewish people. Unkindness was in Hitler. Had he been kind he would have not hurt people.
objective
adjective
ob·jec·tive | \ əb-ˈjek-tiv , äb- \
Essential Meaning of objective
1: based on facts rather than feelings or opinions. We need someone outside the company to give us an objective analysis.: not influenced by feelings Scientists must be objective. It's hard to be objective [=fair, unbiased] about my own family.
2philosophy : existing outside of the mind : existing in the real world objective reality
em·pa·thy
/ˈempəTHē/
noun
When I wept for you, I became you.
- the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
Of course not. But that does not make the attribute of kindness bad. For example, Hitler was unkind to the Jewish people. Unkindness was in Hitler. Had he been kind he would have not hurt people.
Respectfully, you are mistaken. These are the exact definitions I use. Objective is an adjective describing a view of reality which is outside of one's self. Empathy means feeling another person's feelings and that is what is meant when I say "become the other". Or in other words, "put yourself in their shoes" means "see what the world looks like to them".Now you see why i said your usage was nonsensical.
There should be no problem here. I'm claiming kindness is always a good attribute in mankind. Your suggestion that it would be wrong to be kind to Hitler is a circumstance. I responded that the truth of that statement does not make kindness a bad attribute in mankind (In other words it's always a goodness, a virtue, a good quality). I did not say that to suggest that you claimed kindness is bad. I said that because you showed an example of where kindness was obviously not expected to be shown.So is any suggestion that i claim kindness is "bad".
No, I'm saying kindness is absolutely moral, meaning as in, the attribute of kindness/goodness in a person is a virtue, and therefore is never immoral as a virtue or quality in a person. Perhaps if I say it in the negative,You say kindness is a moral ( absolute).
Morals? No. I showed general rules about objective morality which would necessarily have to be categorical to the reality of morality as a whole, from a subjective view. I simply made a distinction from what the sentiments of moral and immoral imply, in that I am capable as all people are. So it's no coincidence that when many people agree that something is true in a shared reality it is because it's real and not a mass fantasy. Therefore, it's unreasonable for us to think that there's no Truth or knowledge of the objective morality to be seen, when that sentiment is the very meaning of morality to us.There is no general rule to any morals
Respectfully, you are mistaken. These are the exact definitions I use. Objective is an adjective describing a view of reality which is outside of one's self. Empathy means feeling another person's feelings and that is what is meant when I say "become the other". Or in other words, "put yourself in their shoes" means "see what the world looks like to them".
There should be no problem here. I'm claiming kindness is always a good attribute in mankind. Your suggestion that it would be wrong to be kind to Hitler is a circumstance. I responded that the truth of that statement does not make kindness a bad attribute in mankind (In other words it's always a goodness, a virtue, a good quality). I did not say that to suggest that you claimed kindness is bad. I said that because you showed an example of where kindness was obviously not expected to be shown.
No, I'm saying kindness is absolutely moral, meaning as in, the attribute of kindness/goodness in a person is a virtue, and therefore is never immoral as a virtue or quality in a person. Perhaps if I say it in the negative,
"Unkindness is never a quality admired by others in a good people."
Morals? No. I showed general rules about objective morality which would necessarily have to be categorical to the reality of morality as a whole, from a subjective view. I simply made a distinction from what the sentiments of moral and immoral imply, in that I am capable as all people are. So it's no coincidence when many people agree that something is true in a shared reality even because it's real. Therefore, it's unreasonable for us to think that there's no Truth or knowledge of the objective morality to be seen, when that sentiment is the very meaning of morality to us.
Human beings are incapable of being 100% objective, especially when it comes to morality, etc, so we just have to do the best we can until Jesus comes back and shows us what is truly objective according to the Father, etc...
God Bless!
Your statement is wisdom (a positive denoting knowledge as good) and therefore an objective view of morality.Human beings are incapable of being 100% objective, especially when it comes to morality, etc, so we just have to do the best we can until Jesus comes back and shows us what is truly objective according to the Father, etc...
God Bless!
To me this is a testimony to the powers of unbelief.Powerful waves of equivocation
These words are wisdom in their imagery, even because they acknowledge that objectivity exists.Thus do we see "objectivity " incarnadine
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