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Where is the center of the universe?

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You might as well ask where the center of the surface of the Earth is located. There is no such thing.

Found it!

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Ezekiel 5:5 (Good News Translation)
"The Sovereign LORD said, Look at Jerusalem. I put her at the center of the world, with other countries all around her."


I am showing you folks a major Key to Bible interpretation. We are born in the 'Heart of the Earth', where the Temple Zygote is. :)
 
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We know that stars falling from the sky are a meteor shower on the earth.

Are they now? Ever notice the resemblance...

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Matthew 6:10 (The Message)
"Set the world right; Do what's best - as above, so below."


The Kingdom is Within. Seek ye first. Much will be revealed. :)
 
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Are they now? Ever notice the resemblance...



Matthew 6:10 (The Message)
"Set the world right; Do what's best - as above, so below."


The Kingdom is Within. Seek ye first. Much will be revealed. :)
Just a rock burning up through the atmosphere.
 
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As counterintuitive as it may seem, the universe has no center, and it has no boundary.
The problem with determining there isn't one for sure, is the invisible part of the universe and its coordinates with the visible.
 
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You might as well ask where the center of the surface of the Earth is located. There is no such thing.
Everything has a center, but it would God or a quantum computer to do the math to find it. Some things are just to complicated for us to do the math. My son is a computer engineer and he tells me random does not exist. Although my father loved the random theory.
 
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Das ist falsch.
Relevant verse...

Ezekiel 5:5 (Good News Translation)
"The Sovereign LORD said, Look at Jerusalem. I put her at the center of the world, with other countries all around her."


I am showing you folks a major Key to Bible interpretation. We are born in the 'Heart of the Earth', where the Temple Zygote is. :)
KJV: Ezekiel 5:5 Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘This is Jerusalem; I have set her in the midst of the nations and the countries all around her.

The nations, not not the world. You can't have a center on the surface of a globe. The nations known to Ezekiel were on all sides of Jerusalem. However, that was true of Babylon for all nations known by Babylonians.
 
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God told me (in the dream) that the universe would all come back together again. We use words like shrink or contract. I can not remember what word He used. At the same time he told me my family was drifting apart but they would all come back together again. It was actually my sister that pulled us all back together when she talked my mom into buying a weekend vaccation home on a lake. So there were lots of toys, lots of good food and lots of good reason to get together with the family. I think my sister is in heaven doing the same thing now. Planning events to draw the extended family together.
Nice post. Thanks. It makes my heart feel good.
 
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he tells me random does not exist
Radioactive decay. I would be open to anyone's evidence that decay of unstable atoms is not truly random.
Most computer algorithms are psuedorandom, but there is a true random generator available...
 
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Where is that center point? It is now believed there is no such thing in this dimension...or it is everywhere.
They should be able to trace the paths of the galaxies to a point that would be identified as the center.
But I also remember something about the WEB telescope finding evidence of objects on the edge of the known universe that should not be there—fully formed galaxies before they were supposed to exist. This is an interesting thread. Thanks for sharing.
 
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They should be able to trace the paths of the galaxies to a point that would be identified as the center.
That's the problem. All the galaxies are moving away from all the other galaxies. And because they are all moving away from each other, the farther they are away, from any given galaxy, the greater their speed, from the POV of that galaxy.

Picture the surface of a globe of size 10 square units. There 10 dots on it evenly spread out so that each is the same distance from every adjacent dot. Now picture the surface of the globe expanding to 100 square units. Now each dot has moved farther away from every other dot.
Where on the surface is the center of expansion?

"It's not on the surface; it's in the center of the globe", you might say. Which is correct. Now consider three dimensional space that is also curved in four dimensions like the surface of a three-dimensional globe.. Imagine the four-dimensional superspace expanding. Every galaxy moves away from every other galaxy,but there is no center of expansion in that space.

The center of the expansion of space is not in three-dimensional space.
 
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That's the problem. All the galaxies are moving away from all the other galaxies. And because they are all moving away from each other, the farther they are away, from any given galaxy, the greater their speed, from the POV of that galaxy.

Picture the surface of a globe of size 10 square units. There 10 dots on it evenly spread out so that each is the same distance from every adjacent dot. Now picture the surface of the globe expanding to 100 square units. Now each dot has moved farther away from every other dot.
Where on the surface is the center of expansion?

"It's not on the surface; it's in the center of the globe", you might say. Which is correct. Now consider three dimensional space that is also curved in four dimensions like the surface of a three-dimensional globe.. Imagine the four-dimensional superspace expanding. Every galaxy moves away from every other galaxy,but there is no center of expansion in that space.

The center of the expansion of space is not in three-dimensional space.
Some galaxies move towards each other, which probably means some are just even flying by in another direction other than away or towards. While unknown forces and matter that may be in the mix.

To really see that there isn't any center would be to see the visible and invisible. like looking at a globe surface that has no center but in the middle is the center.
 
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Some galaxies move towards each other
Yes. Locally, that happens. Our galaxy is on a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy, for example. But we are very close together as galaxies go.
 
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To really see that there isn't any center would be to see the visible and invisible. like looking at a globe surface that has no center but in the middle is the center.
This is why it's easy to understand that the surface of the Earth has no center, but not so easy to understand why the universe has no center.
 
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Yes. Locally, that happens. Our galaxy is on a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy, for example. But we are very close together as galaxies go.
Rgr that, and both galaxies are also part of local cluster of other galaxies. Seems they are buzzing around each other colliding in a certain area of the universe. All this is being pulled towards the Virgo Cluster of a thousand galaxies.
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I would be open to anyone's evidence that decay of unstable atoms is not truly random.
The law of entropy, also known as the second law of thermodynamics, states that entropy, or disorder, in a system will increase or remain constant over time unless outside energy is added.

Researchers typically use random numbers supplied by a computer, but these are generated by mathematical formulas – and so by definition cannot be truly random. In the 1970s, scientists discovered that a widely-used formula produced regularities in its 'random' numbers that undermined countless research studies.

You can not predict what an individual atom will do. But a group of atoms produces a pattern that can be predicted. From my experience a pattern can be control. We can control decay. In China they are very good at making things look old. Like making new coins look very old. So they can sell them and get more money for them. I actually did that for a living. I would make something old look good but keep enough of the decay so people can see how old it is.

Cars use to rust out but now they try to control the rust to increase the value of a car. They try to control the decay. The funny thing is I have been in old houses that look brand new like the day they were built. But the house next to them maybe completely tore up and destroy. Again I did renovation and repair so it was my job to restore old houses. I wonder if positive people produce a positive energy to keep their house looking new and negative people produce a negative energy that makes their house look old.

I am told that a restaurant has to be renovated every 12 years. My house has been 20 years from the last remodel so I struggle every day to try to keep it in as good of shape as I can. As we all struggle with decay in our home and cars.
 
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Researchers typically use random numbers supplied by a computer, but these are generated by mathematical formulas – and so by definition cannot be truly random. In the 1970s, scientists discovered that a widely-used formula produced regularities in its 'random' numbers that undermined countless research studies.
Hence the term "psuedorandom." For those generated numbers.
 
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