Where Is Muhammad Ali Now?

rockytopva · Jun 18, 2016

Speaking of love, grace, mercy, forgiveness... Where was it during the Armenian genocide administered by Muslims against Christians? Photo entitled... "Turk official teasing Armenian starved children by showing bread" ....

Eryk · Jun 18, 2016

rockytopva said:
Speaking of love, grace, mercy, forgiveness... Where was it during the Armenian genocide administered by Muslims against Christians? Photo entitled... "Turk official teasing Armenian starved children by showing bread" ....

Serbian and Rwandan genocides in the 1990s were committed by Christians. Not real Christians tho? There's no shortage of Muslims who will say that the man in that photo is not a real Muslim.

gord44 · Jun 18, 2016

rockytopva said:
Speaking of love, grace, mercy, forgiveness... Where was it during the Armenian genocide administered by Muslims against Christians? Photo entitled... "Turk official teasing Armenian starved children by showing bread" ....

Genocide's rarely show love, grace, mercy and forgiveness....where are you going with this?

Hetta · Jun 18, 2016

It's was a huge non-sequitur. So what else is new.

rockytopva · Jun 18, 2016

A man takes his car, drives it to the middle of the Golden Gate bridge, leaves a note to all his friends and love ones... And then jumps off the bridge into the fog below.

This to me is what happens to us at death. After we take our last breath our souls fall out of the body quite helplessly into the fog below. Who knows what we have awaiting to scramble for our souls as they fall into the limbo below? Will we have a cart awaiting us to take us to our eternal abode? Will angels and devils await to take mastery over our souls once they fall out of the body? Will we simply awake to either heaven or hell?

Once our soul falls out of the body it is an eternal thing. There is no going back to our present estate to make up for the errors committed in this life. I personally have not plans of leaving this world without being hand in hand with the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

MehGuy · Jun 18, 2016

rockytopva said:
Speaking of love, grace, mercy, forgiveness... Where was it during the Armenian genocide administered by Muslims against Christians? Photo entitled... "Turk official teasing Armenian starved children by showing bread" ....

Don't show Cenk Uygur this, lol.

Heartofsilver · Jun 19, 2016

bhsmte said:
On this site, there appears to be plenty of folks willing to judge others, especially when the other person disagrees with their personal faith belief.

That is very sad, I just see that we are not to judge and that He is the only Righteous Judge. [emoji169]

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Arthra · Jun 19, 2016

Born Again2004 said:
Oh, the Muslims believes Jesus existed.... Even a great prophet but they do not "accept" Jesus as Lord and Savior...much less God! So, our connotation of accept is completely different!

Yes it may be like that for you as I suggested above but accepting Him they do...

bhsmte · Jun 19, 2016

Arthra said:
Yes it may be like that for you as I suggested above but accepting Him they do...

Can you give specifics on how Muslims accept Jesus?

What do they accept and what do they not accept?

Born Again2004 · Jun 19, 2016

Hetta said:
That's awful. Frightening people into faith is not real faith. It misses out on love, grace, mercy and forgiveness.

Agreed, but hell is a reality!
But, God has always been just and a God of wrath!:
Revelation 11:18 The nations were filled with wrath, but now the time of your wrath has come. It is time to judge the dead and reward your servants the prophets, as well as your holy people, and all who fear your name, from the least to the greatest. It is time to destroy all who have caused destruction on the earth."

Hetta said:
I did. Your post just doesn't make sense.

Me saying I have never met a Christian that was happy about someone going to hell?.....you don't understand that!

Born Again2004 · Jun 19, 2016

Arthra said:
Yes it may be like that for you as I suggested above but accepting Him they do...

"Accepting" them how is the important thing....certainty they don't accept him as Lord and Savior, now do they?

Noxot · Jun 19, 2016

rockytopva said:
Jesus Christ had the audacity to say...

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6

I would not want to try eternity without him! If the Bible has it right, then the three-time heavyweight boxing champion is now coping with something far, far worse than Parkinson's disease.

yeah i'm sure the devil would love for everyone who does not worship the lamb that has a voice of a dragon to suffer. I would take my chances because perfect love cast out fear. evil doers use a false image of Christ to deceive much of the world. the flesh can not please God nor know him, you must be born from above.

Rev 13:11-15 (YLT)
And I saw another beast coming up out of the land, and it had two horns, like a lamb, and it was speaking as a dragon, and all the authority of the first beast doth it do before it, and it maketh the land and those dwelling in it that they shall bow before the first beast, whose deadly stroke was healed, and it doth great signs, that fire also it may make to come down from the heaven to the earth before men, and it leadeth astray those dwelling on the land, because of the signs that were given it to do before the beast, saying to those dwelling upon the land to make an image to the beast that hath the stroke of the sword and did live, and there was given to it to give a spirit to the image of the beast, that also the image of the beast may speak, and that it may cause as many as shall not bow before the image of the beast, that they may be killed.

Rajni · Jun 19, 2016

Born Again2004 said:

Agreed, but hell is a reality!

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Meh, not necessarily.

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gord44 · Jun 19, 2016

rockytopva said:
This to me is what happens to us at death. After we take our last breath our souls fall out of the body quite helplessly into the fog below. Who knows what we have awaiting to scramble for our souls as they fall into the limbo below? Will we have a cart awaiting us to take us to our eternal abode? Will angels and devils await to take mastery over our souls once they fall out of the body? Will we simply awake to either heaven or hell?

Perhaps another body based on your previous lives (however many that may be) karma. One could always hope for a favorable rebirth! Or simply just say the Nembutsu and rely on Amida's vow and be reborn in the Pureland!

Arthra · Jun 19, 2016

bhsmte said:
Can you give specifics on how Muslims accept Jesus?
What do they accept and what do they not accept?

See my earlier post:

Where Is Muhammad Ali Now?

Born Again2004 · Jun 20, 2016

No, only "Christians" have Christ in them...Muslims are not Christian and will perish!

Armoured · Jun 20, 2016

gordRedeemed said:
Genocide's rarely show love, grace, mercy and forgiveness....where are you going with this?

"Muslims are bad" would be my guess.

Fizzywig · Jun 20, 2016

Born Again2004 said:
No, only "Christians" have Christ in them...Muslims are not Christian and will perish!

Well, according to the Bible Christ is "the light that lights all who come into the world", the eternal Word through Whom all things are made.

Yes, I have heard how those very words can be understood to exclude all who fall short of believing in the various doctrines of the "true" Christian, but there you go.

All in the interpretation of course..................except for those who "do not interpret at all" but just give us all the word straight from God's pen. I have had discussions with many of them..........unfortunately they all tell me something different.

hey ho

Noxot · Jun 20, 2016

no one experiences heaven quite the same but some experience it more than others.

for some hell is their heaven and they will figure that out one day and then they will change after they realize that they can. or hell will change into what it really is.

I would hate to see the 'heaven' of those who think God is evil enough to have such limiting criteria for those who get to rejoice with him for ever. I bet there are societies in hell that are delusional and think they are heaven.

Born Again2004 · Jun 20, 2016

Fizzywig said:
Well, according to the Bible Christ is "the light that lights all who come into the world", the eternal Word through Whom all things are made.

Yes, I have heard how those very words can be understood to exclude all who fall short of believing in the various doctrines of the "true" Christian, but there you go.

All in the interpretation of course..................except for those who "do not interpret at all" but just give us all the word straight from God's pen. I have had discussions with many of them..........unfortunately they all tell me something different.

hey ho

You best heed Jesus's own words!:
John 14:16 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

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